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There Will Be Blood

I expect a lot of nobility to die in this game. Here's how I'm thinking this. Nobles are famous and will therefore lose a lot of spirit upon death. Just sitting around in a castle would be boring so many nobles will go out and do stuff other than hiding behind walls. In a survival game with many dangers death will come often. This makes me think that the nobility will end up perma dead much more often than people are thinking they will.

This isn't even taking into consideration that some people will want to assassinate nobles. I'm just looking at it from a survival gameplay perspective.

I've already seen many of the nobles that post in the forums talk about other jobs and hobbies they'll do along with their responsiblities as king/duke/baron etc.

It's going to be a pseudo realistic world which means no healer throwing regen and shields on you and no health pot spamming. In a chaotic fight even a noob could walk over and coup de grace you.

I could be wrong about this but just to be safe you should all get with the babymaking soon as you can on release.


1/15/2017 10:04:40 AM #1

You're 100% right, but that's what the betas are for. If the developers see that nobles are dropping like flies, changes will be made.

I have (some) faith that they'll manage to balance everything out, at least as much as is possible with such an inherently asymmetric game.


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1/15/2017 3:27:22 PM #2

Nobles do have options on hand to limit this already such as armed guards or clothing choices that do not advertise their rank are just a couple examples.


1/15/2017 3:41:47 PM #3

When you meet someone in the game for the first time, you won't know who they are or even if they are a PC, OPC, or NPC.


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1/15/2017 4:37:52 PM #4

If you think nobles, or at least duke/kings will just walk around outside their walls by themselves. Yeah not going to happen. But all depends what they do, some nobles I have talked to will just do whatever duties while doing some crafting and don't see themselves exploring so much.

But even then, you could just have alt if you wanted to see some more action. Or wanted to do anything you felt was too risky on your main. You are assuming nobles will find their job boring though. I wouldn't expect death to random happen, at least caused by other players. Cause as Moonlynx pointed out, you could walk pass a guy with 5 guards around him. May think it's weird, but have no idea who it is.


1/15/2017 6:08:02 PM #5

Posted By Gunnlang at 10:37 AM - Sun Jan 15 2017

If you think nobles, or at least duke/kings will just walk around outside their walls by themselves. Yeah not going to happen. But all depends what they do, some nobles I have talked to will just do whatever duties while doing some crafting and don't see themselves exploring so much.

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Problem with that line of thinking is Story Points. Since SBS has yet to give us any idea how they will be earned it is quite possible (likely in my opinion) those with titles will be required to adventure at least a little. Won't have to solo anything but they will likely be required to put themselves in danger.

Lead armies, meet with powerful land owners to keep them loyal ect. I fully expect from the way SBS seems to be leaning, nobles will be forced out of their citadels and capitals to allow opportunities for deviants or enemy players to strike.

1/15/2017 8:29:20 PM #6

Posted By Malais at 12:08 PM - Sun Jan 15 2017

Posted By Gunnlang at 10:37 AM - Sun Jan 15 2017

If you think nobles, or at least duke/kings will just walk around outside their walls by themselves. Yeah not going to happen. But all depends what they do, some nobles I have talked to will just do whatever duties while doing some crafting and don't see themselves exploring so much.

snip

Problem with that line of thinking is Story Points. Since SBS has yet to give us any idea how they will be earned it is quite possible (likely in my opinion) those with titles will be required to adventure at least a little. Won't have to solo anything but they will likely be required to put themselves in danger.

Lead armies, meet with powerful land owners to keep them loyal ect. I fully expect from the way SBS seems to be leaning, nobles will be forced out of their citadels and capitals to allow opportunities for deviants or enemy players to strike.

You are correct that sometimes the noble will mostly likely have to leave their capitals for some business or another but probably not as much as you might think. Even then it will probably be mostly state visits to neighboring nobility which while may contain some risk, it won't be as much as you might think (traveling with guards, etc).
Just keep in mind that story develops from differing types of actions of many different kinds of people. "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future."


1/15/2017 8:52:41 PM #7

Nobles won't die like flies unless they are stupid. They invest hundreds of bucks to get the title (unless they did this just to support the studio). So they will want to avoid perma death. I imagine they will have personal escorts with them when they are in the open or will at least disguised. Anything else would be stupid and 'pseudo realistic' indeed. A few will make mistakes for a few times but unless you're coup de graced you won't have a perma death, only a mere warning.

This is a cool mechanic and I don't believe there will be changes to the system.


1/16/2017 3:26:26 AM #8

Posted By Moonlynx at 10:41 AM - Sun Jan 15 2017

When you meet someone in the game for the first time, you won't know who they are or even if they are a PC, OPC, or NPC.

I think it will be painfully obvious who is an NPC and who's a PC... just look for the idiots running around in their skivvies.

Posted By Saap at 3:52 PM - Sun Jan 15 2017

They invest hundreds of bucks to get the title

A couple hundred bucks won't even land you a barony.

1/16/2017 4:05:07 AM #9

Posted By Malais at 05:08 AM - Mon Jan 16 2017

Problem with that line of thinking is Story Points. Since SBS has yet to give us any idea how they will be earned it is quite possible (likely in my opinion) those with titles will be required to adventure at least a little. Won't have to solo anything but they will likely be required to put themselves in danger.

Lead armies, meet with powerful land owners to keep them loyal ect. I fully expect from the way SBS seems to be leaning, nobles will be forced out of their citadels and capitals to allow opportunities for deviants or enemy players to strike.

Which even then shouldn't be a problem. A king could cover himself up so he doesn't stand out so badly as someone that's important. Plus he still have guards around him. I can't see the king going from his duchy to another one getting jumped. Sure it's possible. But if you think bandits everywhere will be knowing all the travel routes of nobles, that be something else.

Sounds like anyone not under a king should be worried with your statement. Since you be way more open to anyone attacking you. Hate to start within a NPC kingdom.


1/16/2017 4:14:58 AM #10

I think you're forgetting a CdG takes time to perform. In a heated fight, someone wouldn't have time to do it. All it'd take is for the noble to have competent guards with them, and they'd be relatively fine. You'd have to find a way to overwhelm the guards and take them out at the same time, which is doable but requires planning and coordination.