And why shouldn't it be?
Posted By *Atlas Forgiven * at 10:58 PM - Thu May 18 2017
And why shouldn't it be?
Just having a discussion I foresee lots of fun drama coming if someone runs off with everyones tokens.
I imagine most Group threads will be reworded now.
I don't believe so.
There is only so much the tokens can do to replace true raw man power. If groups truly wanted to handicap themselves then they would go that route.
You want success you don't buy your brothers and sisters, you earn them. In turn they will repay you ten-fold.
Posted By Maulvorn at 4:59 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By *Atlas Forgiven * at 10:58 PM - Thu May 18 2017
And why shouldn't it be?
Just having a discussion I foresee lots of fun drama coming if someone runs off with everyones tokens.
I imagine most Group threads will be reworded now.
Your right I guess there could be a couple of Token Scammers with false pledges of greatness. Though once you get the tokens what else are you going to do with them? I mean there not EP or anything like that so your probably going to put them towards a settlement or guild any ways. I guess you could say you were on one server and switch to another effectively stealing them but...
By the way did I mention my Nigerian guild in a Nigerian town has an inheritance of tokens that were left to you?
All you have to do to receive the MASSIVE amount of tokens is send me one token first to verify your accounts legitimacy
Honestly, if you have joined a settlement or guild, what else is your token for?
Now, it should definitely not be a requirement to enter--that's a $10 join up fee for folks who have chosen not to buy tokens.
But if you got 'em, use 'em. So if you want 'em, ask for 'em. ezpz
Posted By Tarvald at 11:01 PM - Thu May 18 2017
I don't believe so.
There is only so much the tokens can do to replace true raw man power. If groups truly wanted to handicap themselves then they would go that route.
You want success you don't buy your brothers and sisters, you earn them. In turn they will repay you ten-fold.
To play devils advocate you could argue that towns (in terms of actually being landowners in it) is a rather exclusive club; so I totally foresee many towns saying "You can join if you give the mayor a token".
Posted By Maulvorn at 5:03 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By Tarvald at 11:01 PM - Thu May 18 2017
I don't believe so.
There is only so much the tokens can do to replace true raw man power. If groups truly wanted to handicap themselves then they would go that route.
You want success you don't buy your brothers and sisters, you earn them. In turn they will repay you ten-fold.
To play devils advocate you could argue that towns (in terms of actually being landowners in it) is a rather exclusive club; so I totally foresee many towns saying "You can join if you give the mayor a token".
Can you really keep some one from joining your town? And even if so, that sounds like youd be shooting your self in the foot. The more pcs in your town the better right? Not only to they contribute to your towns economy but they have the potential to grow it and bring more people in
Posted By Maulvorn at 3:03 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By Tarvald at 11:01 PM - Thu May 18 2017
I don't believe so.
There is only so much the tokens can do to replace true raw man power. If groups truly wanted to handicap themselves then they would go that route.
You want success you don't buy your brothers and sisters, you earn them. In turn they will repay you ten-fold.
To play devils advocate you could argue that towns (in terms of actually being landowners in it) is a rather exclusive club; so I totally foresee many towns saying "You can join if you give the mayor a token".
True, as you said though, that might be adding brush to flame. I'd wager the town might have some initial success, or inner circle success, but it will eventually be burned to the ground by the larger more diverse town. Semantics, a town of 25, could only last so long against 50-100-250.
I also think asking for such things leaves a bad taste, and word will spread hurting the Towns overall economy and opening them up for PVP out of sheer spite.
Posted By *Atlas Forgiven * at 3:06 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Can you really keep some one from joining your town?
Nope. Which is why this thread will die soon. ;-)
Posted By Tarvald at 11:08 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By Maulvorn at 3:03 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By Tarvald at 11:01 PM - Thu May 18 2017
I don't believe so.
There is only so much the tokens can do to replace true raw man power. If groups truly wanted to handicap themselves then they would go that route.
You want success you don't buy your brothers and sisters, you earn them. In turn they will repay you ten-fold.
To play devils advocate you could argue that towns (in terms of actually being landowners in it) is a rather exclusive club; so I totally foresee many towns saying "You can join if you give the mayor a token".
True, as you said though, that might be adding brush to flame. I'd wager the town might have some initial success, or inner circle success, but it will eventually be burned to the ground by the larger more diverse town. Semantics, a town of 25, could only last so long against 50-100-250.
I also think asking for such things leaves a bad taste, and word will spread hurting the Towns overall economy and opening them up for PVP out of sheer spite.
I suppose it all depends on how much renown the tokens give, we know they give one inhabitant per token, so a town of 7 players who added tokens adding 7 other inhabitants.
so if 25 players gave 25 tokens (thats with each member adding one token and not the maximal 3 tokens which would add 75 inhabitant and a dozen or so plots) they effectively double there membership and possibly doubling there renown allowing for easier NPC growth.
Posted By Maulvorn at 3:12 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By Tarvald at 11:08 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By Maulvorn at 3:03 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By Tarvald at 11:01 PM - Thu May 18 2017
I don't believe so.
There is only so much the tokens can do to replace true raw man power. If groups truly wanted to handicap themselves then they would go that route.
You want success you don't buy your brothers and sisters, you earn them. In turn they will repay you ten-fold.
To play devils advocate you could argue that towns (in terms of actually being landowners in it) is a rather exclusive club; so I totally foresee many towns saying "You can join if you give the mayor a token".
True, as you said though, that might be adding brush to flame. I'd wager the town might have some initial success, or inner circle success, but it will eventually be burned to the ground by the larger more diverse town. Semantics, a town of 25, could only last so long against 50-100-250.
I also think asking for such things leaves a bad taste, and word will spread hurting the Towns overall economy and opening them up for PVP out of sheer spite.
I suppose it all depends on how much renown the tokens give, we know they give one inhabitant per token, so a town of 7 players who added tokens adding 7 other inhabitants.
so if 25 players gave 25 tokens (thats with each member adding one token and not the maximal 3 tokens which would add 75 inhabitant and a dozen or so plots) they effectively double there membership and possibly doubling there renown allowing for easier NPC growth.
I suppose then it might come down to how well these NPC's are coded in the face of adversity. Will an NPC equal a player, or will a player equal an NPC.
Posted By Tarvald at 11:15 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By Maulvorn at 3:12 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By Tarvald at 11:08 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By Maulvorn at 3:03 PM - Thu May 18 2017
Posted By Tarvald at 11:01 PM - Thu May 18 2017
I don't believe so.
There is only so much the tokens can do to replace true raw man power. If groups truly wanted to handicap themselves then they would go that route.
You want success you don't buy your brothers and sisters, you earn them. In turn they will repay you ten-fold.
To play devils advocate you could argue that towns (in terms of actually being landowners in it) is a rather exclusive club; so I totally foresee many towns saying "You can join if you give the mayor a token".
True, as you said though, that might be adding brush to flame. I'd wager the town might have some initial success, or inner circle success, but it will eventually be burned to the ground by the larger more diverse town. Semantics, a town of 25, could only last so long against 50-100-250.
I also think asking for such things leaves a bad taste, and word will spread hurting the Towns overall economy and opening them up for PVP out of sheer spite.
I suppose it all depends on how much renown the tokens give, we know they give one inhabitant per token, so a town of 7 players who added tokens adding 7 other inhabitants.
so if 25 players gave 25 tokens (thats with each member adding one token and not the maximal 3 tokens which would add 75 inhabitant and a dozen or so plots) they effectively double there membership and possibly doubling there renown allowing for easier NPC growth.
I suppose then it might come down to how well these NPC's are coded in the face of adversity. Will an NPC equal a player, or will a player equal an NPC.
Due to the NPC personalities and different skills I suppose it depends, sheer output? maybe NPCs have the edge.
I wouldn't expect tokens to be a requirement of pledging citizenship--that'd be foolishly shortsighted.
I would expect tokens to earn a player preferential treatment by the realpolitik mayor.