I think if someone's happy with their lot, and the new person is benevolent, it's going to be pretty common for people to stay right where they are. Some won't, of course. Some will love the dramarama of fighting back. Some may even feel inspired to. But human nature being what it is, if someone new is in charge, and they seem OK, a lot of people will just accept it and move on. All of this is why CoE will be fun to play. The unknown.

The north remembers.

Like Flashman said, most Mayor/Barons will probably just keep doing what they've been doing as long as the "New Owner" doesn't shake things up too much on the lower levels. I think Barons might have a slightly harder time as they are more involved in the defense of the kingdom. Mayors on the other hand are just there to make tax money and the merchandise for the county, whoever is in charge.

Basically what Flashman said.

There are of course going to be alot of variables, far too many to really talk about.

but what would u guys do personaly?

would u just deal with it or would you work on some way to fight back?

i was looking for both angles what u thought would go down and what you personaly would do

Posted By mandrake1980 at 3:33 PM - Mon May 22 2017

but what would u guys do personaly?

It would depend on a stack of variables... what the new person was like... what the old person was like... how the new person got the role at all... what the people around me thought of the new person... what the people around me thought of the old person... all of these things are going to vary from situation to situation. And in terms of the people around me, who would help me form my opinion, I don't even know who they are yet.

Only a fool will react before he even understands what has happened. There are far too many possible variables in your hypothetical to really understand the full situation. You would have to define some of them.

While taking into count so many different things. For me it would mostly come down to how loyal I felt, also how I felt towards the new person. Not to be mistaken with the new person taking over, whoever runs the invading forces.

Either just let it go and happily live on/work with the new person. Or salt the earth of every single land they take over. Burn down the fields and generally see how long I can last doing as much damage as possible, be fun times.

Posted By Haegon_Redwyne at 10:13 PM - Sun May 21 2017

The north remembers.

^ This.

Although most of the figure heads of the County would have been culled, aside from those Mayors that bent to the enemy...of which they should be skinned alive for their cowardice but that's for another time.

The gentry will in most circumstances go about business as usual. The game changer will be the reputation of the previous Count, were they charismatic, did they instill a Nationalist pride of their people and County before they were cut down.

There are so many little odds and ends that will play on the human psyche that could potentially change the outcome.

I'd like to imagine though that if you were worth your salt as a Count, then your people might fight in your name.

War is messy, but if my Count was on the front-lines trying to stop my farmstead from being burnt down by a Army let loose, well you bet I'd be in the next County over signing up to get sword and shield.

Remember, The Enemy is the Enemy from the Farmer to the King. They all deserve to be butchered

If a county is captured there would be no appointments by the invading kingdom after. You would know who your new count would be up front as they would be the one trying to execute the CB. So your decision of whether to support them or not would have already been made during the fighting and defense of the county seat.

I would honestly start plotting off the bat, I'm not they type of person that would allow that to happen. But I also wouldn't make big moves to gain support for a coup, maybe a little subterfuge here, sabotage there, locating questionable assassin or bandit groups.

The basic concepts of conflict dictate that the lower your social status the least likely you are to be truly effected long term by a regime change. It is the nameless farmer of one regime that fights the nameless farmer of another regime so that an elite can gain power, but the farmers just keep farming when it is done. I like my count, and so I will defend him to the best of my ability, but not at the cost of my farm or family. A new regime will not be able to take my farm from me just because he takes a house from my count.

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Posted By Kelipski at 11:32 PM - Mon May 22 2017

>I like my count, and so I will defend him to the best of my ability, but not at the cost of my farm or family. A new regime will not be able to take my farm from me just because he takes a house from my count.

It maybe in the invaders best interest not to annoy the commoner folk too much, doesn't mean they won't. For all you know they don't think they can hold it from some army incoming and will destroy every town while salting the earth.

That line would scare me if I was your count I will defend him to the best of my ability, but not at the cost of my farm or family. Knowing if the going got tough, it be only a matter of time before you flipped.

It shouldn't scare you. If you expect someone to destroy their own lives to defend you when they don't have to, you're not fit to be a leader.

The idea that an army will destroy everything in their path would require that army to be massive. Destroying everything in your path slows you down as a counter force moves to your location. You would need an army so large as to not be worried about any counter force. A wise army (of this primitive nature) would move through an area and towards their ultimate target.

The foundation of your argument is based on other types of games. The cost of such an attack to not expect to gain anything is not something anyone would do. Sure, maybe a small number of people but not an army. Who would spend all those resources, risk their lives, and take days to invade an area with no other hope than to destroy something? There is no long-term benefit of such an action.