It is no secret that the EU kingdoms agreed to try to reach a consensus for map voting, to try and ensure that we work as a server to get the maps we all agree are most favorable going into round 2.
They agreed to take 2 days for internal polling of their communities, and then another 2 days to discuss it with one another. On day 3, when it became apparent that they could not bully their way into getting everything they wanted, and without a word to the rest of the kingdoms, Arkadia posted this in their kingdom chat:
THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT REACHED
Just thought that all of Selene Server should be made aware of the continued deceptions perpetrated by some of it's leaders.
our 72h deadline was made very clear to every leaders and kings
At one point 4 kingdoms (out of 5) agreed for map C so we thought it was the best compromise. I'm sorry your kingdom Al-Khezam is not in favor of this map but unfortunately, in a group, some people should make efforts for the best.
When you don't know, please don't talk
That is kind of embarrassing because as of this post... C has 686,417 IP... There are 6 other maps on the 3 other servers with more votes and it is your #1 map right now on Selene... Which means your Kingdom is lacking on IP or more likely your members are not voting and going to do the vote their way/with the rest of the server.
we all know how arkadia plays the game... i bet 80% of arkadia has no clue why they vote for map C.. they only do it because they are told to.
Its not the first time some dirt came up with arkadia ;)
https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/20292/why-i-left-arkadia-the-story-some-dirt-coming-up
@Kamikazie We made the announcement 3 hours ago and it's 3AM so most europeans are sleeping atm. That's why only a few people voted for it. Also it's still number 1 atm in the EU poll.
Lastly remember that what makes the game are the gamers. The money we put into the game is not representative of the number of players.
@Chintz I know you're from Al-Khezam and you are against map C (on top of being a regular hater towards arkadia sadly) but having a Consensus means you also have to find a middle ground that most people agree on.
Posted By Darmky at 03:17 AM - Fri Oct 26 2018
Chintz I know you're from Al-Khezam and you are against map C but having a Consensus means you also have to find a middle ground that most people agree on.
Agreed that is what it means... did you guys do that tough? No you did not... if i remember the choice you guys gave us was map C O K T.... and no other map.... Then we even said that we would be oke with T.... But instead of talking about that you went with C ;) how is that reaching a consensus?
Posted By Chintz at 10/26/2018 1:20:56 AM
Posted By Darmky at 03:17 AM - Fri Oct 26 2018
Chintz I know you're from Al-Khezam and you are against map C but having a Consensus means you also have to find a middle ground that most people agree on.
Agreed that is what it means... did you guys do that tough? No you did not... if i remember the choice you guys gave us was map C O K T.... and no other map.... Then we even said that we would be oke with T.... But instead of talking about that you went with C ;) how is that reaching a consensus?
simply because C was the map that made most kings & queens happy
4 Kingdoms (out of 5) agreed on several different maps at one point. No one else twisted that into thinking it meant voting for that map and then just went ahead with it - they continued the discussion. There was even 1 map which we (AL-Khezam) liked (J) that you guys in Arkadia outrightly said you would try to select a different Kingdom than we had all agreed on in order to prevent anyone else voting for it. Our response to that in our community in the discord was overwhelmingly to try and search for a different map that would be better suited for you (and everyone else). We did not respond to that by just pushing our own agenda, but by trying (maybe foolishly) to accommodate what you wanted and what was best for your kingdom by ruling that map out as an option for us and looking to others.
There was a survey sent out to the player base on Selene for everyone to have an equal say in the map. Map C did not do overly well on that survey with the top five being B, H, S, I and J. Ignoring the player base and pushing through your own agenda then phrasing it in such a way to imply we had all agreed on it was highly misleading.
In a post that mentions about how your kingdom has tried to bully others adding "When you don't know, please don't talk" to try to put someone down for expressing their opinion kinda backs up what Sang was saying in his post.
Are you guys for real? is only a game ….. Arkadia is doing the best for all our members..... We tried to talk for 4 days about one map. Al kazam is going against us every turn. Relax mate what you doing is Spying on another discord... What are you afraid of ? Relax and chillout brother.
You can try to justify your King's actions all you want Darmky, the truth is he, with no regard of the other king's, neglected to inform the committee of his decision to withdraw from the talks, and took his own action. Basically spitting in the face of the remaining kingdoms.
Map C was out the window from the first 24hrs. While we did keep returning to C the decision remained the same.
While Raziel is free to partake in the choice he made. A simple resignation would have been the appropriate course of action and announced to his members with the correct statement. Saying that negotiations to come to a unified map agreement has fallen short due to Raziel not being able to wait for a final deliberation of the Kingdoms.
KS Backer #44
As you said, 4 out of 5 kingdoms agreed on a map. Then you kept postponing and not sharing the results of the actual survey. When the 48 hours were up, there were still no results posted and 3 of the kingdoms were specifically pushing for maps that Arkadia never did or never would agree with.
The pattern was clear from there, this 'agreement' was made to push your agenda, and not a fair and equal choice, which we have considered with our options that we provided.
Next time when you make a statement that you will provide surveys and information results within a time limit, make sure you follow through with it and don't keep the other kingdoms waiting.
Posted By Rekxar at 02:33 AM - Fri Oct 26 2018
As you said, 4 out of 5 kingdoms agreed on a map. Then you kept postponing and not sharing the results of the actual survey. When the 48 hours were up, there were still no results posted and 3 of the kingdoms were specifically pushing for maps that Arkadia never did or never would agree with.
The pattern was clear from there, this 'agreement' was made to push your agenda, and not a fair and equal choice, which we have considered with our options that we provided.
Next time when you make a statement that you will provide surveys and information results within a time limit, make sure you follow through with it and don't keep the other kingdoms waiting.
Actually the way the Al-Khezam community has responded by trying to select one that you would like in the community discord has been overwhelmingly nice and positive and all those people should be proud. (I'll be honest, I was not one of those people)
Actions speak louder than words. The only agenda that is being pushed is yours.
Taking time to weigh up the options and listen to the actual playerbase on the server is smart especially on a decision that impacts the game as much as this does. We still have plenty of time to do that, setting arbitrary deadlines then doing what you wanted when they are not met and making it seem like it's everyone else's fault for not hitting said deadline is ridiculous.
Posted By WorthlessEmu at 10/26/2018 1:22:55 AM
4 Kingdoms (out of 5) agreed on several different maps at one point. No one else twisted that into thinking it meant voting for that map and then just went ahead with it.
@Rekxar but to be fair it dsnt realy matter because a arkadian will not listen to reason.
Posted By WorthlessEmu at 03:38 AM - Fri Oct 26 2018
Posted By Rekxar at 02:33 AM - Fri Oct 26 2018
As you said, 4 out of 5 kingdoms agreed on a map. Then you kept postponing and not sharing the results of the actual survey. When the 48 hours were up, there were still no results posted and 3 of the kingdoms were specifically pushing for maps that Arkadia never did or never would agree with.
The pattern was clear from there, this 'agreement' was made to push your agenda, and not a fair and equal choice, which we have considered with our options that we provided.
Next time when you make a statement that you will provide surveys and information results within a time limit, make sure you follow through with it and don't keep the other kingdoms waiting.
Actually the way the Al-Khezam community has responded by trying to select one that you would like in the community discord has been nice and all those people should be proud.
Actions speak louder than words. The only agenda that is being pushed is yours.
its actualy something to become prety pissed about as we have talked for hours and hours on the maps that Arkadia would alow to make it fair for all of the kingdoms. And then they act like this... Like joke on us...
The arkadian dislike squad is active btw LOL
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Posted By Kestrea at 10/26/2018 1:44:18 AM
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Lmao, first political decision as a server has been pretty amazing. This game is going to be f*ing awesome!
