So, I'm wondering.... One of the kingdoms in NA-W is currently called "Valyria". That's a pretty well-known name in the Game of Thrones/ASOIAF universe, as the homeland of dragons and House Targaryen. Is that going to be a problem? 🤔
So, I'm wondering.... One of the kingdoms in NA-W is currently called "Valyria". That's a pretty well-known name in the Game of Thrones/ASOIAF universe, as the homeland of dragons and House Targaryen. Is that going to be a problem? 🤔
The Brudvir Countess Mysi Karuna, of Wainswey County is devoted to woodworking and trading in Elyria. Settled in the interior of Ravencrest Duchy in Aranor, NA-W.
Posted By Vye at
During D&SS, all of your domains of the same level must be adjacent and clustered. This means they can't snake around or create lines, but must create the tightest possible grouping of available domains.
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I think, this part is misleading. If what you mean is: a three-duchies-duchy must have a borderpoint of all three duchies, then please state that. You can create some quite weird domains, like star-shape, that are far from compact but still fit to the rules (players asked SbS for approval).
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Posted By Gromschlog at 10:11 AM - Tue Apr 23 2019
Posted By Vye at
During D&SS, all of your domains of the same level must be adjacent and clustered. This means they can't snake around or create lines, but must create the tightest possible grouping of available domains.
Vye
I think, this part is misleading. If what you mean is: a three-duchies-duchy must have a borderpoint of all three duchies, then please state that. You can create some quite weird domains, like star-shape, that are far from compact but still fit to the rules (players asked SbS for approval).
I think the best way to make this simple is to give an example, soooo I made one. Looking at the grid below, lets say each hex is a county and you have 3 count titles you want to merge.
Obviously at this point there is no restrictions. So lets pick county "d".
The Orange circle represents your center point, and since all the counties in this example are the same distance from your center point, we can pick any of them, so for this example let's pick "g" for our second county.
The orange dot is your new center point, centered overall on your new merged county. Now the rule is that you have to pick to closest adjacent county to your center point. Since this is a nice grid, we have 2 options and can either pick county "f" or "e" but we cannot pick any others adjacent or not since those two are the closest.
There is 1 exception to this rule I'll show below using my mad MS Paint skills.
For this example, assume all the counties with black dots have been claimed already by someone else, or exist outside the domain you are placing in. You would in fact be able to pick county "h", since it is the closest adjacent county to your center point that isn't already claimed.
Hope this helps at least clear up how this mechanic is going to work for those with questions.
The issue is, real duchies and counties are not hexagonal. Assume the same with building blocks from different size and shape and it gets a lot harder. Still, from what some groups plan, it seems like they follow the rule "gotta have internal borderpoints" and not "it has to be as close together as possible", which is the stated rule.
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Posted By Gromschlog at 11:11 AM - Tue Apr 23 2019
The issue is, real duchies and counties are not hexagonal. Assume the same with building blocks from different size and shape and it gets a lot harder. Still, from what some groups plan, it seems like they follow the rule "gotta have internal borderpoints" and not "it has to be as close together as possible", which is the stated rule.
The rule is "must create the tightest possible grouping of available domains." This bit assumes things like already claimed domains, being unable to select outside of your kingdom (or duchy if picking counties), and everything else that may constrain you.
I only used a hex grid because it was simple, but you are right during actual selection it might be even more constrained and you could end up with only 1 available option if you want to merge domains, or heck, you could end up with a star shaped county if those are the only ones available.
I was simply trying to help clarify the rule for people that may not be 100% on it :D
Take the following picture as example
It seems, SbS would be fine with someone choosing a/e/f or e/f/h as triple domains. In my understanding, those are far from the tightest possible grouping of available domains. I'd simply prefer rules that fit the design plan, as I prefer descriptions of mechanics that are on point. They can keep everything as is, I just voice my mispleasure on the way the rules are stated as the statement sounds clear but is vague if my example fits.
In this example, tightest possible grouping would be abf, bcf, ade, deg, fhi, egh and even ghi, although ghi doesnt even have a triple-border-point. still, as I see it, ghi is more clustered together than aef, efh or cfi. imo, their rule should translate to something like percentage of internal borders compared to outer borders that should be higher than a certain value like 20-25%. Which is not the case for star-shape domains.
I dont want them to change the rules that they agreed on internally. I dont want to take something from anyone. Its just that I recently watched some plans a group has, and those plans fall under the aef/efh/cfi type and I wondered, if those plans would fit with the rules. So I asked them, and they told me, that SbS has approved their plans such that those would work. So the rules that are actually applied dont fit with the rules that are stated. Thats misleading. I dont like misleading things.
btw: multiple domain holders in most cases wont be restrained by neighbours as they'll be able to pick first. And the case, that a tight combined domain is impossible because of neighbours should not suddenly allow very weirdly shaped domains. Like if someone I don't like picks a domain I like, I still shouldn't be able to pick all surrounding domains.
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Posted By Gromschlog at 11:20 AM - Tue Apr 23 2019
Take the following picture as example
It seems, SbS would be fine with someone choosing a/e/f or e/f/h as triple domains. In my understanding, those are far from the tightest possible grouping of available domains. I'd simply prefer rules that fit the design plan, as I prefer descriptions of mechanics that are on point. They can keep everything as is, I just voice my mispleasure on the way the rules are stated as the statement sounds clear but is vague if my example fits.
Your examples would not fit. The rule about tightest clustering would be applicable to the second domain selected as well. So in your a/e/f example, as soon as you pick a, it takes the center of your domain and likely you would only be able to select d or b, e and f wouldn't be allowed. So you would likely end up with a/d/e or a/b/d(maybe f)
In your second example e/f/h, after picking e your two options would likely be d or g so you would probably end up with e/d/a or e/g/h
Edit: Noticed you updated your post after I quoted it. Some of your opinions on what would be the tightest clusters are ones I came up with in my example :P
So, do you get an emailed a link to the map so you can pick? Ive reviewed a fair portion of the many - many - posts, and while a DS&S site is mentioned I've yet to FIND it.
Yes, I know it is delayed (fine, no problem) and yes I appreciate there are reasons for said delay (again, no problem), and I infer that things have been discussed on Discord (dont have time for live chants, sadly). What I would very much appreciate is someone just posting what the process will be, once it commences! Just a go to this site (insert link) / you will get an email update/web link/smoke signal..... Something concrete as to the ACTUAL intended process and WHERE to look once issued, please!?
THIS^^ ^^^ we need a clear , concise , "do this" post ... especially as there is so much confusion surrounding selection.
Nobody has still expIained clearly to me how to get a title ( i only want the mayor title btw). I'm sorry if it sounds dumb. I also have a bloodline packege.
:)
Posted By Ermory at 08:38 AM - Wed Oct 23 2019
Nobody has still expIained clearly to me how to get a title ( i only want the mayor title btw). I'm sorry if it sounds dumb. I also have a bloodline packege.
Not dumb! You’ll have to wait until this event occurs which is soon:
https://chroniclesofelyria.com/news/32762/Settlers-of-Elyria-is-Coming
Basically you’ll be buying a settlement of your choosing if it is available ^.^ you’ll get the title later on in game!
Posted By Ermory at 09:38 AM - Wed Oct 23 2019
Nobody has still explained clearly to me how to get a title ( i only want the mayor title btw). I'm sorry if it sounds dumb. I also have a bloodline package.
Currently you cannot buy mayor or higher titles.
The Settlers of Elyria event (upcoming, no set release date. Soon™) will allow you to buy a settlement from the domain selection.
After SoE, the only way to be titled is to work for it via reputation / fame when the game launches ( Social Classes ).