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Sustainability changed with new maps?

So i have noticed that at least in my own settlement the sustainability had changed and in a HUGE(very bad) way. Has anyone else experienced this with their own settlement?


3/15/2020 12:57:06 AM #1

Yes. There was a bug that increased sustainability inappropriately. However, my settlement is now less sustainable than it was before the bug, but after an initial adjustment for the additional population. So, sustainability is a moving target. We should expect to spend EP to improve sustainability.


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https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/17117/naw-the-duchy-of-fioralba https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/14124/naw-kingdom-of-ashland https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/30605/of-contracts-and-commerce-a-tldnr-post https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/31835/on-taxes-rents-and-ancestral-lands

3/15/2020 1:05:00 AM #2

Ya see the issue with this is the fact when I selected the location it had higher sustainability. The sustainability dropped to 3 after I merged all my titles to upgrade it. So at what point will we see the real settlement will end up with? Because this whole nothing changed sustainability from the last map to this one is getting old.


3/15/2020 1:13:07 AM #3

Posted By Kable at

So i have noticed that at least in my own settlement the sustainability had changed and in a HUGE(very bad) way. Has anyone else experienced this with their own settlement?

EXACT same thing happened to me. I opened a ticket and evidently they don't back up their data and I wasn't smart enough to do screen shots. THANKS!


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3/15/2020 1:29:12 AM #4

Mine has been fluctuating throughout these soft launches too actually, not sure why it changed but an answer would be nice so I don't have to worry about it continuing.

Didn't snag a pic of the first time it dipped down, but this was yesterday.

And this is it as of the posting of this message.


3/15/2020 1:29:22 AM #5

Posted By Kable at 6:05 PM - Sat Mar 14 2020

Ya see the issue with this is the fact when I selected the location it had higher sustainability. The sustainability dropped to 3 after I merged all my titles to upgrade it. So at what point will we see the real settlement will end up with? Because this whole nothing changed sustainability from the last map to this one is getting old.

Yep. I’m in the same boat. I selected an area with one less than max sustainability. It then dropped barely into red. Then increased to yellow. Now it is at bottom, just as you are.


Count of Frostale, in the Duchy of Fioralba, in the Kingdom of Ashland, by the Grace of Haven. The above opinions are mine alone and do not reflect those of my Kingdom or Duchy.

https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/17117/naw-the-duchy-of-fioralba https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/14124/naw-kingdom-of-ashland https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/30605/of-contracts-and-commerce-a-tldnr-post https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/31835/on-taxes-rents-and-ancestral-lands

3/15/2020 3:01:44 AM #6

Posted By Beathan at 8:29 PM - Sat Mar 14 2020

Yep. I’m in the same boat. I selected an area with one less than max sustainability. It then dropped barely into red. Then increased to yellow. Now it is at bottom, just as you are.

Cept mine started high i selected it and it dropped it to 3 and then the new map hit and it dropped to 0.


3/15/2020 10:16:33 AM #7

Other stats have been changed as well. Make a me weary. Seems like anything could be changed at any minute. You don't really know what you're getting.


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3/15/2020 12:49:20 PM #8

Please submit tickets with any screen shots you might have. I didn't do screen shots like an idiot and all I get is.

Submit evidence, we didn't change anything.

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3/15/2020 1:37:10 PM #9

Posted By DracoKalen at 08:49 AM - Sun Mar 15 2020

Please submit tickets with any screen shots you might have. I didn't do screen shots like an idiot and all I get is.

Submit evidence, we didn't change anything.

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Please include your username on here and if you are NOT sending it from the email address you use on this site include your email address as well.

Well, you could reply giving them a link to this thread, evidence of change is pretty substantial I think.


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3/15/2020 1:45:39 PM #10

Posted By Beathan at 8:57 PM - Sat Mar 14 2020

Yes. There was a bug that increased sustainability inappropriately. However, my settlement is now less sustainable than it was before the bug, but after an initial adjustment for the additional population. So, sustainability is a moving target. We should expect to spend EP to improve sustainability.

Interesting info about the bug, first I've read about it, when did it occur and get fixed?

Regardless sustainably shouldn't be changing after people have made their initial purchases yes?

If they do end up selling improvements to self sustainability in the EP store after first lowering them I would consider such action bad form.


You must all be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to get angry. JAMES 1:19 NLT

3/15/2020 2:37:25 PM #11

Posted By Kyleran at 09:37 AM - Sun Mar 15 2020

Posted By DracoKalen at 08:49 AM - Sun Mar 15 2020

Please submit tickets with any screen shots you might have. I didn't do screen shots like an idiot and all I get is.

Submit evidence, we didn't change anything.

supportsoulboundstudios

Please include your username on here and if you are NOT sending it from the email address you use on this site include your email address as well.

Well, you could reply giving them a link to this thread, evidence of change is pretty substantial I think.

I did reply with a link to this thread. As to evidence being substantial I just keep getting "prove it" from them


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3/15/2020 3:15:27 PM #12

mine stayed the same, but I didn't add many villager tokens to it either


3/15/2020 4:39:12 PM #13

I would like to see the option of changing our original choice as to how many settlements worth of population to add. Doubt that will happen, though.


3/15/2020 7:45:52 PM #14

Posted By Scorus at 12:39 PM - Sun Mar 15 2020

I would like to see the option of changing our original choice as to how many settlements worth of population to add. Doubt that will happen, though.

I'm thinking that's a little different. As most of us are asking that our sustainability be returned to what it was after DSS completed. I'm really worried about their data integrity. My sustainability has been steadily declining and to them nothing has changed. They can't see it


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3/16/2020 2:09:51 AM #15

I went from 5 bars of sustainability, to 3, now to none, if the Data behind the sustainability hasn't changed why was it shown to be significantly higher than it was? why was there not a forum announcement about the mistake or bug? Now there is land outside my county, that no one owns, between my seaside town and the Ocean, just showed up out of the blue. I don't know how to show images here but my domain is Luna-Fortuna-Ash-Cleon