Nice project my friend ! happy to count you in Midgard !
Nice project my friend ! happy to count you in Midgard !
Seems like an interesting idea due the very nature this organization is about how does it plan to ensure political neutrality? Especially when basing it in a kingdom it somewhat declares some form of political position.
“He that keeps not his arms in time of peace will have none in time of war.”
Sounds like a decent front for a spy organization.
we gief u scribes. they write ur laws. no worries. They friends.
Lololol.
To answer spying and neutrality, Let's just say this:
1- Scribes will be required in each kingdom, duchy and counties. The Scribe Society of Elyria will be a great asset to every region of the world.
2- We will build an Academy in each kingdom so that each kingdom is represented and ready to take over if things go wrong. If the director is not neutral and prioritize one kingdom over the other, they can be overthrown and replaced by a neutral one.
3- We had no choice, but to start somewhere so I decided to start the guildhall in my own County's Academy. When the Society is big enough, members from everywhere will participate in decisions and ensure neutrality. I'm pretty sure the guildhall will move over the years, just like any frontier in this ever evolving world.
4- The Society will be present in all four servers. I don't see why and how we should prioritize one kingdom over the other in each server.
5- We will provide contracts and laws. We will not write laws. The only lever that we have is contract prices which should be about the same everywhere unless a kingdom does not respect one of our Principles and attack our Academy. Believe me, if Arkadia destroys the Academy of another kingdom, I will personally apply planned penalty.
I hope this answers your question and help you understand the Society better. As for spying, I would go the explorer or mercenary guild route instead of the scribe route if this was my wish and intent.
Thanks for the discussion. I hope to see you well.
P.S. We're looking for papermakers. If you want to supply the Academies, feel free to contact me. We have high demand.
Think I'll stick with Tryggr Scribes.
Good luck though. Shame you joined Arkadia.
Posted By Muhrder at 7:00 PM - Fri Jun 02 2017
Think I'll stick with Tryggr Scribes.
Good luck though. Shame you joined Arkadia.
I had a quick look at Tryggr Kingdom. Looks like a nice kingdom, but your scribe community seems to be lacking. If you want to help your scribes prosper, I suggest they join the Scribe Society of Elyria. They will be independent, but the Society will offer support.
Think about it. Vikings also needs contracts and laws, and the Scribe Society of Elyria is the most reliable guild to supply them.
Discuss with your scribes, I'm sure we can work together.
Seeing how it went in the last days, I think the Scribe Society of Elyria is required more than ever.
Think about that. We have kingdoms, duchies, counties, baronnies, towns, hamlets, families, tribes, guild, schools, etc.
Some of you are true believers of kingdoms, others only want to be a specific tribe without knowing if the tribe will be available in their kingdom.
Some want to start a hamlet and have a nice family of like-minded to live together.
For myself, I started with a school in mind, the Scribe Academy of Midgard. Then, I met Jeebs Truthshaper who was working of the Scribe Society of Elyria, a cross-server, cross-kingdoms Scribe guild. We met and merged deciding it would be more efficient to work together.
I don't know what your playstyle is, but keep in mind that all that we now know will keep on changing in the future months and even more when Elyria is launched.
I just thought it would be nice to work together as scribes, leaving barons do wars.
That being said, keep on playing it the way you feel. You are right to use this freedom. But if you want to be part of something great and beautiful, this is my view of how guilds should be.
There are institutions both in Nirath and Al-Khezam at least that will require scribes, educate scribes and give scribes a place to do research. I don't really see the need for throwing all scribes into a single organisation... I get dizzy just reading about how complex of an organisation you're planning here...
Also, I didn't fully grasp where the Midgard academy stuff ended and where the scribe society took over. Perhaps you could clarify the differences? Or are you saying all institutions focusing on scribes must be named Midgard Academy?
Thor, you are right. Many schools are in development, just like the Scribe Academy of Midgard. I can name The University of Wenport, The College of Utdannelse or Angelica's Academy. In our our own duchy, we have The Scholars Institute. All these schools are very well thought and presented by involved players who can't wait for the game to launch to start them.
I hope all of them will be living and thriving academies once the game is launched.
So, why a scribe guild to oversee all of this? Because we will be a small community of scribes that will probably need to regroup to defend themselves. Maybe you noticed that I added to the description that kingdoms would not raid academies or pay the consequences. This is the main point. If we are all together, the kingdom can be wiped, but we will survive since every kingdom needs contracts and they'll understand that we will help each other in case some fanatics don't respect that simple rule: Don't destroy schools.
I know that most schools will want to keep their name. Let's say scribes from The University of Wenport wants to go on, join the society and keep their name, we're fine with it. We added the common name Academy of Midgard so that a name represents the Scribe Society of Elyria. After that, if an Academy of Midgard is build in another county, the fame of the Academy will surely help them achieve higher attraction.
I don’t really care if schools keep their name or not. We will need schools all over the server and the brand name is mainly used as a brand name.
Tl:dr We are building a scribe guild. Scribes who also build schools may join the society and keep their school’s name or not, as they wish. We only want to have a massive scribe community.
Posted By Muhrder at 11:49 PM - Thu Jun 01 2017
Sounds like a decent front for a spy organization.
Just to add to that, Astrid Van Mauve, the original EU director is with Nirath. I didn't see her in a long time, but at least, she was.
Might not be a decisive argument against spying, but it's a fact.
This reminded me that Astrid offered me to use the name of the guild on EU server as it is not active here... I prefered the independence from other servers.
Scipion, your organization is welcome to study in all of our schools. We'll gladly welcome you and your members.
The Scribe Society of Elyria on the EU server is now located in the independent Duchy of Lyon.
To all those who were questioning kingdom neutrality of the Society, this should be good news.
Below are some types of contracts usually written by the Scribe Society of Elyria
Explicit contracts are agreed upon by both parties. Usually at least two signatures lie on the contracts.
Simple trade agreements can be used to purchase supplies. Simple hand-to-hand trading can result in frauds where the selling party hands lesser value items that the buyers’ appraisal ability cannot notice.
Using a contract, the buying party makes sure the item purchased is of the bartered quality even when they cannot personally appraise the quality.
More complex contracts may require a fixed quantity of supplies within a certain timeframe. This kind of contracts usually require payment in advance from the purchasing party.
Contracts can ultimately allow a purchasing party to require a fixed quantity of supplies per week, for a fixed timeframe, each delivery to be paid for upon delivery.
Sharing information is a good way to be more efficient when working with other people. But sometimes the information is very valuable and confidentiality contracts ensure it is not shared without consequences.
Mail delivery contracts can be as simple as delivering supplies to consignee.
Timeframe for delivery can add complexity to the contracts, as well as how the payment is handled. Payment on pick-up is usually less complex than payment upon delivery or initial payment upon pick-up and final deposit after delivery.
Errands may be considered as reversed mail delivery where the courier is required to pick-up and bring back supplies.
Explicit bounty contracts can be signed to ensure an individual is efficiently taken care of. Disable or kill contracts can be complexified by additional details such as bringing back the disabled individual or “accidental” death.
Crafting orders allows an individual to pay in advance for specific crafted goods. Contract complexity may add details such as specific quality or how payment is handled. Crafting order may also specify items to be provided by either the crafter of the client.
Building contracts work like crafting orders in many ways. Timeframes or pay per week may be added when the building contract extends over a long period of time.
Landowners might need work force to cut down trees or harvest fields. Short and long term contracts can ensure both workers and employers are protected.
More complex harvesting contracts may include efficiency, productivity or non-disclosure agreements.
Contracts between teachers and students are commonly used to ensure students reaches specific goals. These contracts also allow teachers to receive compensation for their time.
Mentoring contracts may include ownership of crafted items or responsibility to provide material or working area.
Merchants or noble, if you own anything of value, hiring staff to ensure safety of land or transport is a good idea. Security contracts usually include salary and duration, but can also define risk assessment and compensation in case situations get complicated.
Land can be sold using a land ownership contract. More complex contracts may be required when the land is large enough to require land survey. Signed land ownership contracts can also be used to provide proofs of ownership to local noble or to guarantee loans for lower interest rates.
Similar to land ownership contracts, rent contracts can officialise use of land or building. Rent contracts can be for a fixed duration of be automatically renewed until terminated.
Some rent contracts can also modify land ownership upon termination.
It is not always required to rent a building to have access. Even private properties may be accessible to friends and family. The contracts may specify duration, but also possibility for visitor to use furnitures or supplies.
Foreigners can sign citizenship contracts to benefit from land ownership or public services. Citizenship contracts usually include respect of applicable laws in exchange for benefits.
Marriage contracts usually determine the common wealth of married individuals after marriage. Some contracts may exclude wealth acquired prior to marriage. Requirements for heir may also be included in more complex marriages contracts.
Diamonds may be eternal, marriage is not. The divorce contract ensures both parties agree to the terms of the divorce. Such contract usually share wealth between parties and ensure ownership of lands or buildings after divorce are clearly identified.
Adoption contracts are usually signed between the legal tutor of the child and the potential and future parent. Life can be harsh and prosperity is not alway synonym with heir by blood. Adoption contracts ensure responsibility for the child’s wellbeing is clearly identified.
Similar to adoption contracts, childbearing contracts ensure the child bearer is adequately compensated for the time and effort for the birth of a new Elyrian. These contracts may not be available everywhere as their ethic is still questioned.
Organization must be created on clear and solid bases. From the number of administrators to the sharing of the wealth, all aspects of organization creation must be written and signed for a new organization to be legal.
Criminals follow the money. If your wealth is safely stored in a secured bank, you can spend you time freely with peace of mind. Deposit contracts ensure your money’s safety is guaranteed and interest will flow your way.
Banks may want to loan money with interests, but many loans can be offered by various people and not always with interest rates.
Renting is some kind of loan where money is exchanged for temporary use of asset. Individuals can also borrow carts, horses or weapons for a limited duration without any fee.
Loan contracts clarifies these situation. More complex contracts may add compensation in case the item is lost or broken.
Peace agreements are very complex contracts and may require pages and pages or clauses. From handling of prisoners or war to rebuilding of cities, only Kings can imagine what can be required to sign peace treaties.
Criminals who spend some time in prison with good behaviour, who repay their debt or apologize to victims can be pardoned. Pardon contracts ensure forgiveness and better start in a criminal’s new life.
The bounty contract is the cement of all other contracts. What is the purpose of a contract if you cannot put a price on the head of unscrupulous and filthy parties.
Citizen and foreigners do not have to sign implicit contracts to be bound by them. Landing foot on a new land or private property often rhyme with implicit agreement on the respect of laws and regulations.
Law contracts are required for nobles, barons and mayors to effectively pass laws and regulations. These contracts are not signed by citizens, but used as part of land management.
Tax contracts, just like law contracts are created to be used in land management. Effective tax rate can be enforced and the more complex the contract is, less frequent are loopholes that allows citizens to avoid taxation.
Libraries, hospitals, fountains, parks, streets, brides, each public property should have an effective contract to ensure all citizens know and understand what are their rights and responsibilities regarding the public property.
If a baron builds a forge in the barony, the contract will ensure proper use and maintenance, as well as fees, when applicable.