This is great, but aren't you kind of implicitly breaking the golden rule here as well? People will now associate you with deviant activities.

That said, this was an entertaining and informative guide. I look forward to trying to outsmart some crafty criminals.

Posted By MReal at 3:05 PM - Mon Jun 12 2017

This is great, but aren't you kind if implicitly breaking the golden rule here as well? People will now associate you with deviant activities.

That said, this was an entertaining and informative guide. I look forward to trying to outsmart some crafty criminals.

As I say in my opening statement, I can neither confirm nor deny any intention of deviancy. Even denying makes people assume you are lying. So yes, no matter what I say, people will associate me with deviancy. It's just something I'll have to live with.

I just wanted to help those who do want to give this playstyle a try a good foundation to work from.

Should be entertaining to see what people can accomplish.

A very nice post and read Doglord, CoE wouldn't be as great as it could be if the deviants in the game aren't good players; and deviant seeming to be probably the hardest role to partake in CoE it's good to spread information like this to others to improve everyone's gameplay experience.

I can't find a flaw, I really tried.

very nice Doglord +1, not that I would ever do any deviant activities.

Thanks everyone! Happy to be of service.

I've thought of another small piece of advice.

Disguises are a great way to help stay one step ahead of the law. Even if you're not a master of disguise, take the extra step to prepare one. Even a cheap disguise may spare your identity should you get spotted. Best to stack the deck in your favor in any way you can.

I would also add this: Do your homework diligently, figure out where true power lies, forget idealism , be pragmatic and work for the side that wields it, have powerful backers to sponsor your "deviant art work".

This will be by far hardest playstyle to play successfully there is very limited space for making mistakes. There is no place here for idealism, only thing that should matter to Deviant is himself. If you are prone for idealistic views of things greater than yourself and greater "good" this is probably not playstyle for you, sooner then later you will make decisions that will conflict with the life you chose in Elyria.

Personally I believe there will be very few truly excellent deviants rest will be just meat put on a grinder.

Early when I heard about the game I thought awesome I will be "talented" vampire Lich werewolf fireball casting super ninja pirate assassin....then I started paying attention... unless you are some kind of savant COE prodigy this type of play will be the most salt producing one and not on the receiving end but from those self styled "speshul badass ninja wanna bees" when they realize that game design is so heavily stacked against them. I am not saying it is not possible to be legendary deviant, but very few will ever get there.

Posted By Doglord at 4:47 PM - Mon Jun 12 2017

Thanks everyone! Happy to be of service.

I've thought of another small piece of advice.

Disguises are a great way to help stay one step ahead of the law. Even if you're not a master of disguise, take the extra step to prepare one. Even a cheap disguise may spare your identity should you get spotted. Best to stack the deck in your favor in any way you can.

having a disguise of the King be a good idea?

Posted By Iccubus at 2:25 PM - Tue Jun 13 2017

Posted By Doglord at 4:47 PM - Mon Jun 12 2017

Thanks everyone! Happy to be of service.

I've thought of another small piece of advice.

Disguises are a great way to help stay one step ahead of the law. Even if you're not a master of disguise, take the extra step to prepare one. Even a cheap disguise may spare your identity should you get spotted. Best to stack the deck in your favor in any way you can.

having a disguise of the King be a good idea?

Not really everyone knows the king, from courtiers to guard, clerks etc, etc, best disguise is someone of no great importance but who is permanent fixture , someone who is expected to be there but does not draw attention like servant minor noble, clerk . cook or guardsmen.

Posted By Gunghoe at 09:21 AM - Mon Jun 12 2017

I can't find a flaw, I really tried.

This is the first time I've seen a post like this from Gunghoe...

Posted By Mythos Cardan at 09:30 AM - Tue Jun 13 2017

Posted By Iccubus at 2:25 PM - Tue Jun 13 2017

Posted By Doglord at 4:47 PM - Mon Jun 12 2017

Thanks everyone! Happy to be of service.

I've thought of another small piece of advice.

Disguises are a great way to help stay one step ahead of the law. Even if you're not a master of disguise, take the extra step to prepare one. Even a cheap disguise may spare your identity should you get spotted. Best to stack the deck in your favor in any way you can.

having a disguise of the King be a good idea?

Not really everyone knows the king, from courtiers to guard, clerks etc, etc, best disguise is someone of no great importance but who is permanent fixture , someone who is expected to be there but does not draw attention like servant minor noble, clerk . cook or guardsmen.

Unless you're playing as a spy whose pretending to be the town/city jester who makes fun of the nobility by wearing a horrible disguise of them and go around doing legal nonsense. It'll be spy-caption... a disguise within a disguise within a disguise

I would expand on rule 6 and probably move it up the list. My advice: Dont die! If your killed during whatever deviant act it is your up to, if your killed you've not only lost your gear but given away your identity. The deviant that runs away lives to kill another day. :D

Posted By Mythos Cardan at 3:30 PM - Tue Jun 13 2017

Posted By Iccubus at 2:25 PM - Tue Jun 13 2017

Posted By Doglord at 4:47 PM - Mon Jun 12 2017

Thanks everyone! Happy to be of service.

I've thought of another small piece of advice.

Disguises are a great way to help stay one step ahead of the law. Even if you're not a master of disguise, take the extra step to prepare one. Even a cheap disguise may spare your identity should you get spotted. Best to stack the deck in your favor in any way you can.

having a disguise of the King be a good idea?

Not really everyone knows the king, from courtiers to guard, clerks etc, etc, best disguise is someone of no great importance but who is permanent fixture , someone who is expected to be there but does not draw attention like servant minor noble, clerk . cook or guardsmen.

Oh thinking more like disguise as King and go into a settlement with disguised guards as well. Getting some drink/ free room and collect some loot and be off before morning. Not trying to fool the kings Dukes, Counts and personal guard.

Glad everyone is enjoying this thread. I released a paladin guide as well but it is admittedly a lot less insightful.

Anywho, I would like to add that not all who practice deviant skills are criminals. A huntress stalking a herd of dear uses stealth, a performer may use sleight of hand and even investigators and bounty hunters may use a number of deviant skills to track down, infiltrate and apprehend criminals.

As for the comment on rule six, other than the golden rule, there isn't a very strict order for the rules. I'd also like to add that while avoiding death may be preferable, it's impossible to avoid death forever and every deviant should account for that possibility. Hell, some more selfless deviants, those who fight for a cause besides their own personal wealth may willingly perform suicide missions to further their cause.