The Q&A of March 27th explained the way the parcels work. The world is divided in a static, threedimensional grid of 64m by 64m by 64m cubes. A claimable area is one of those blocks.
Now say I were to become mayor of a settlement with little height variance, but the town itself was on 62 to 63 meters above sea level. To illustrate (click for more detail):
This would render the ground level parcels worthless for building by themselves, correct? Since you would need to claim two parcels, ground level and the one above it, to get any sort of building going.
Is this correct or did I misinterpret the Q&A?
If correct, will we be able to see the elevation from sea level for the settlements during D&SS?
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You don't have to buy the second parcel anymore than you have to buy any parcel. You just might find the part of your building that is on the second parcel destroyed if someone else comes along and buys that second parcel. Mind you, that other person would have to have a means of getting to that second parcel. If the only way to get to it is through your building and you deny him access to your building, then all you have to do is Adverse Possession.
If a parcel above or below doesn't appear on the land table until it is physically accessible than I hope consideration is given to the person that opened it up. Otherwise it's a potential griefing option as someone watching a building being constructed can snag the parcel the moment it appears and block continued construction. Or if the Count has to place it, can sell it to someone else instead.
(Yes, I am aware it wouldn't physically stop construction but it would be illegal.)
So the answer would be yes, your settlement can be on a bad elevation level.
If your entire settlement is at, say, +30m, everyone attempting to build a building higher than 2 meters will have to purchase a second parcel, risk it getting snagged and getting the building destroyed.
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Posted By Gaoman at 11:36 AM - Tue May 14 2019
So the answer would be yes, your settlement can be on a bad elevation level.
If your entire settlement is at, say, +34m, everyone attempting to build a building higher than 2 meters will have to purchase a second parcel, risk it getting snagged and getting the building destroyed.
Do you mean +30m?
If the settlement is at +34m, then people might run into legal problems digging more than 2m below the surface. This brings up another question: will buildings in climes where soil freezing is possible need basements or deep foundations? Or, in other words, will frost heaves be a thing. Remember that Loooong Night! That might be enough to freeze even the tropics.
Posted By Poldano at 09:38 AM - Wed May 15 2019
Do you mean +30m?
Whups, yes, fixed!
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An interesting thought about 'not needing to buy air rights' for anything in a tree that has no branches above; Trees are living organisms that will not be told when and when not to grow more branches!
Just because a branch doesn't currently exist with 'air space' above doesn't mean that will always be case, nor does it mean that an Ironwood tree might not be grown in a Neran settlement as a type of Embassy for the local Kypiqs.
I personally like the idea of having embassies from other tribes in key settlements. At the very least options like this would mean that there is a handy source of firewood if relations break down ;)
Update from Snipehunter on Discord. Regarding the two following set-ups:
Regarding requiring to purchase air - As soon as air becomes reachable because of your construction efforts it becomes a parcel:
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So unless you are either the Count, or have the Counts backing, your sky scraper could be bought out by another player from the 12th floor up (as an example), but not have access rights through your lower 11 floors?
Sounds like there could be some interesting decisions to be made!
Posted By Shamstone at 06:53 AM - Tue May 21 2019
So unless you are either the Count, or have the Counts backing, your sky scraper could be bought out by another player from the 12th floor up (as an example), but not have access rights through your lower 11 floors?
Sounds like there could be some interesting decisions to be made!
Presuming you built 12+ floors before securing ownership of the next parcel to owner those 12+ floors, yes.
but presumably you would want to buy the land before building on it to prevent yourself from getting in to these type of debacles.
Posted By Blankwindow at 1:37 PM - Tue May 21 2019
Posted By Shamstone at 06:53 AM - Tue May 21 2019
So unless you are either the Count, or have the Counts backing, your sky scraper could be bought out by another player from the 12th floor up (as an example), but not have access rights through your lower 11 floors?
Sounds like there could be some interesting decisions to be made!
Presuming you built 12+ floors before securing ownership of the next parcel to owner those 12+ floors, yes.
but presumably you would want to buy the land before building on it to prevent yourself from getting in to these type of debacles.
Yes, however in the discussion that Serp had earlier (pasted above) that tile would not open up to buy until it is 'available' (being bordered, so in this example, only once the tower reaches 11th floor)
I think your horizontal lines are what's incorrect. Each parcel allows you to build 32m above and 32m below. If your land is sloped, the 32m ceiling is sloped too. The center of your 64m cube is the ground's surface, not sea level.
Posted By Paoron at 9:04 PM - Tue May 21 2019
I think your horizontal lines are what's incorrect. Each parcel allows you to build 32m above and 32m below. If your land is sloped, the 32m ceiling is sloped too. The center of your 64m cube is the ground's surface, not sea level.
Check Snipehunters' quote on this one - the parcels are laid out in an uniform grid (right now). So if your ground level is at +30 above sea level, you have 2m above you and 62m below you.
In this case, you wouldn't need a massive tower to open up the next parcel; only 2 meter.
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