6 February

Elyria and Chill Store Event

By Serpentius

Dearest Elyrians,

It's that time of year again - the frost reminds us of the season, and the tendrils of the chill in the air encourages us to get a little closer to the ones we hold dear. Winter's cold embrace still has us in its grasp.

The new year on Earth and in Elyria is a time for new beginnings, growth, renewal, and the blossoming of true love. In the spirit of this time of year, Soulbound Studios wants to share their affection and gratitude with you, the Community, who we hold so dear!

Starting today, we've added a number of love-themed items to our store. If there is a special someone in the community for you, if you need a way to say "I ♥ you!" to your partner, your crush, your family or your dear friends - we've got you covered.

Please note: These items are seasonal and are available in our online store for a limited time.

Welcome to...

Elyria and Chill

a special store update!

For a limited time, from today, February 6th, until February 19th at midnight PST, treat yourself to one of the below items, or purchase them for your friends, family, or that special someone!


Ring of Devotion

A elegant ring to declare your love or devotion.

Keep or gift this Ring of Devotion to your loved one. It can be used in a marriage ceremony, but does not by itself create a marriage contract between two individuals.

Includes:

  • Ring of Devotion

Note: You can gift or keep this item.


Picnic Basket

A basket containing desserts, recipes and a hand harp, perfect for a picnic for two.

A picnic basket with a collection of desserts and their recipes. You'll also receive a hand harp to help you celebrate the day in style.

Includes: (bundled inside a picnic basket)

  • Chocolate Truffles + recipe
  • Strawberry Shortcake + recipe
  • Forget me not Wine + recipe
  • Hand Harp

Note: This basket is giftable, the package contents individually are not.


Deviant Package

For the more adventurous, get a chain mail bikini and briefs, and a cat o' nine tails.

While most in Elyria won't wear outfits like a chain mail bikini, you see the benefits for more private times.

Get that and chainmail briefs for the mann in your life. Also comes with a cat o' nine tails (meow).

Includes:

  • Chain mail bikini
  • Chain mail briefs
  • Cat o' nine tails

Note: This package is giftable, the package contents individually are not.


Cottage for Two

Start off right with a cottage built for two and a Bloodline package.

Discover Elyria with a friend or loved one by purchasing an extra game copy and a Cottage for Two. You can live the cozy life in the settlement of your choice. Comes with a Bloodline package.

Includes:

  • Cottage (bound to your account - limit 1)
  • Bloodline package

Note: You must own a Bloodline package or above to purchase this item. Also, the Bloodline package is giftable, the Cottage is not.


Song Birds

A pair of song birds to sing beautifully.

Keep or gift this pair of song birds which you will receive as a pet, and a cage to keep them in. This is a mated pair of songbirds, keep them fed and ultimately you will end up with a third.

Please note: This pet is different from the other currently available pets, as they have the potential to fly away and cannot be trained.

Includes:

  • Song birds
  • Cage

Necklace of Fellowship + Pattern

Wear your Necklace of Fellowship or gift it to a friend.

Keep or gift this beautiful Necklace of Fellowship to a friend or loved one. Comes with a pattern to help you create one or more Necklaces of Fellowship in Elyria. Perhaps you'll create a jewelry shop and start a trend!

Includes:

  • Necklace of Fellowship
  • Pattern for Necklace of Fellowship

Questions?

Are the heady vapors of love clouding your mind? Do you want to know if Soulbound Studios likes you back? (We do). Do you have any technical questions regarding our store?

For these or any other inquiries, please email support@soulboundstudios.com.

Visit the online store and make your purchases while you still can!

From the very bottom of our hearts (where the heck does that phrase come from, anyway?) we want to thank you, our Community, for making our forums and chat platform such wonderful places. You are our one, our only, our true love; our beloved Community.

You have our eternal gratitude for inspiring us with your dedication to our project, and to celebrate all of the wonderful new friendships and budding romances that have arisen within our Community. This update is dedicated to them!

Committed to Chronicles of Elyria, to love, and to you,

Soulbound Studios

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Caspian - 9 months ago

Hey folks!

Bank error in your favor! My announcement earlier caused some confusion as many people thought the Elyria and Chill event ended at the END of Monday, not the beginning.

So to be as inclusive as possible we will leave it up until 23:59 PST on Monday, Feb. 19th. For those that thought it ended tonight, enjoy the extension! For those that thought it ended at the end of Feb. 19th - now it really does!

Caspian

Caspian - 9 months ago

Final reminder. Today's the last day to snag an item from the Elyria & Chill promotion! Haven't claimed your picnic basket, Ring of Devotion, or dare I say it - deviant package? Then make sure to do it by midnight tonight PST (13 hrs from now) before they return to the seasonal vault.

Oracle - 9 months ago

Having purchased some, I can also confirm that several of the store items that don't say giftable in the titles may be giftable.

Example - the song birds are giftable (see the small text) though they don't state it in the title.

In response to a couple of other comments, no. The game is not pay to win. Everything can be lost and won through normal play over time. Once the games live, there are no plans to have personal benefits buyable. All you're getting is the warm feeling of knowing you helped a superb studio fund the development of a market changing game, and an experience to boot. Starting out as a Mayor for example, you may find yourself ousted from your position one day. Nothing is certain, but you get the experience either way ;) If you're tempted to bring the subject up, simply look through the old threads. They have been covered in great detail and don't need muppets re-asking the same question repeatedly.

Rybosaurus - 9 months ago

Guys, are you even serious? Do you know what pay-to-win means? Getting an advantage by using real money. Now, from the start, there have been pledge packages that literally allow you to earn social position and become the most influential person in the land. Those titles might as well be end game goals, but you can buy them.

Now they add a Necklace, Rings, cottage, bikkini and now you think it's starting to be pay to win? What logic is that? Items that give you nothing but cosmetics and toys are pay-to-win but social status giving you power over people is not... Like what? Stop trying to own the game development, it's their decission. And this specifically is not only to earn money, but also to give us something new (and sweet) without destroying the game's economy. Instead of complaining, help them. If they get enough money over the years, there won't be pay to win aspect.

Juris Primus - 9 months ago

Sadly this is true. It's also the reason I've not bought the package myself. I want my recipient to have their own home, as I already have a manor for myself.

Dekul - 9 months ago
@Juris Primus:

Posted By Juris Primus at 1:31 PM - Tue Feb 13 2018

Sadly this is true. It's also the reason I've not bought the package myself. I want my recipient to have their own home, as I already have a manor for myself.

Cough, plant the house where they want it then give it to them in game, cough...

Juris Primus - 9 months ago
@Dekul:

Posted By Dekul at 2:38 PM - Tue Feb 13 2018

Posted By Juris Primus at 1:31 PM - Tue Feb 13 2018

Sadly this is true. It's also the reason I've not bought the package myself. I want my recipient to have their own home, as I already have a manor for myself.

Cough, plant the house where they want it then give it to them in game, cough...

This assumes of course that they are in the same County, which would be assumed for a Valentine's like promotion. If its for an alt forum/game persona, then all assumptions are off, as they may end up being in a different Kingdom, or even server.

If they buy the land, can I place it on land I don't own, even if its just to gift them the cottage after its built, or do I need to put it on a parcel I own and gift the whole thing?

Moytel - 9 months ago

It says above that the Bloodline Package is giftable but the Cottage is not..... IN the Cottage for Two package. I'm being told that it IS NOT giftable..... can someone verify this or am I reading this wrong??

BlueEyes - 9 months ago

I LOVE YOU SO MUCH GUYS!

Zeek_Halykr - 9 months ago

a bikini omfg

Adoken - 9 months ago

Walrus finally gets his whip and chainmail bikini.

Captain Alvord - 9 months ago

Its not mentioned but does the ring also come with a pattern? Seems odd that the necklace does and the ring doesn't.

Celphi - 10 months ago

Looks at store Looks at disposable income budget for this period Looks at sale end date and date of next payday I'M GONNA MAKE IT!

Now the question: Buy 2 of each that I want or just one...

Joye Craftalot - 10 months ago

You can buy the recipe in the limited time item, or get it later with EP, or earn it later yet in game. You get the same thing, it's just how and when you get it that changes. Remember, your character is not born the day of launch. Some things preceded you sparking into that body, like owning a silly bit of underwear or a basket.

This promotion, and hopefully more like it, are just a way of seeding the world with minor items for the smaller budgets. It is every bit as legitimate as using EP to buy recipes (and more significant items) for those with larger budgets. These are the smaller packages for the rest of the world that wants to help build the game. At least this way, people below bloodline can get a few extra recipes to start with as well.

summourn - 10 months ago

Well damn. Quite disappointed to see these seemingly random out of place items being offered in the store. I guess it is going to get like Shroud of the Avatar where every time you get an email from the developers it seems like it is to advertise yet another set of new items they added to the shop.

Zesty - 9 months ago
@summourn:

Devs gotta eat.

Varhukan - 10 months ago

That's sweet, good idea SBS

curzman - 10 months ago

Meh, I don't see anything wrong with being able to buy unique crafting recipes. If people can buy a kingship for 10k there isn't really an argument that the people wanting to be crafters shouldn't be able to receive a bonus in their own way for backing the development of the game.

Personally with crafting recipes I would prefer it to be more like skins. Which I think it is but isn't overtly stated as such. So there would be the normal skin for a crafted necklace. and then the pattern for the necklace of fellowship. As long as there are patterns/recipes that give exactly the same stats in game I am completely fine with SBS selling limited edition skins and think they should make more!!

xxcooljokexx - 10 months ago

For me the aspect of the picnic basket that makes it wrong is the fact that i gives you the recipes for the items, which gives you an unfair advantage over players who dont buy it.. rather than the immersion aspect..

Gunnlang - 10 months ago
@xxcooljokexx:

Posted By xxcooljokexx at 10:47 AM - Thu Feb 08 2018

For me the aspect of the picnic basket that makes it wrong is the fact that i gives you the recipes for the items, which gives you an unfair advantage over players who dont buy it.. rather than the immersion aspect..

You mean like every single DE out there? At least the picnic basket is cheap enough that more people can get it. Besides you most likely can share the recipe as well or just get it in game. I see it as something small and cool. Not like the chocolate is going to give you super powers now.

Abigor - 10 months ago

@Shinyih

Yeah I understand what you're getting at (I hope) and to be honest you can argue both ways regarding every item, both how it does not make sense for any item on the list (why waerd or brudvir suddenly have birds in a climate where they will most likely die or why kypiq have them and keep them in cages) and why it still can be fit in lore (you got it from adventures). It also makes less sense for farmer or soldier have a blueprint for some amulet (again can argue both ways).

I just hope SBS does not fully delve into such practice where we will see "kit for carving on Halloween", "set of fireworks" on 4th of July and so on just because. Those can be regular ingame items but instead of getting them ingame you just pre-buy during themed rl events.

sebadevida - 9 months ago
@Abigor:

i get what you said, but what do you want them to do? they need the money, its all in want you want more, no game, or a game with silly items for a while. i mean, when they said they didn't get a publisher, i was expecting something like this, and i think its cool as long as it keeps them from putting loot boxes and micro transactions in game(like the publishers wanted)

Dekul - 10 months ago
@Abigor:

Posted By Abigor at 5:09 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

@Shinyih

Yeah I understand what you're getting at (I hope) and to be honest you can argue both ways regarding every item, both how it does not make sense for any item on the list (why waerd or brudvir suddenly have birds in a climate where they will most likely die or why kypiq have them and keep them in cages) and why it still can be fit in lore (you got it from adventures). It also makes less sense for farmer or soldier have a blueprint for some amulet (again can argue both ways).

Not to nitpick but you know Brudvir pretty much live in songbird central... Alpine forest and Tiaga hold vast numbers of songbirds on earth, at least during warmer months.

Xonth - 10 months ago

I guess I’m in the boat that’s sad to see at least one of the items. I just used the phrase “don’t worry you won’t be seeing chainmail bikinis in this game” to help convince some friends to look into this game and I just in essence lied to them without knowing. Now if some of the people I haven’t spoken ask this question (which is kind of a bench mark question) I’m going to have to say “yep this is a chainmail bikini game”.

sebadevida - 9 months ago
@Xonth:

well, it's not like it's the standard women's armor, its just a silly BDSM thing

WarlanderLichbane - 10 months ago

I hope the artisan closed everyone of those rings on the undies or its going to be a short picnic :)

Helenda - 10 months ago

Can the Ring of Devotion be engraved?

Juris Primus - 10 months ago
@Helenda:

Posted By Helenda at 4:43 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Can the Ring of Devotion be engraved?

I don't think they have that in yet, but hopefully that is something Snipehunter will consider. Even if it's just a text field for the item quality that only shows up when the item is "Examined". That would make it a great heirloom.

Juris Primus - 10 months ago

Caspian did just confirm that each of these items will be craftable in game. So nobody is getting anything they could not get otherwise, they just get it at launch instead of after.

Once the game launches, it will be real players you get these things from. For now, it helps ensure there will be a game to play, and the world is seeded with a few more recipes to help people get started.

Vote via the store. If you like them, buy them. If you don't, don't.

Hieronymus - 10 months ago
@Juris Primus:

Posted By Juris Primus at 3:40 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Caspian did just confirm that each of these items will be craftable in game. So nobody is getting anything they could not get otherwise, they just get it at launch instead of after.

Once the game launches, it will be real players you get these things from. For now, it helps ensure there will be a game to play, and the world is seeded with a few more recipes to help people get started.

Great! Glad it was officially confirmed.

Huginn - 10 months ago

Will there be a defensive bonus to having metal briefs, or is it just for show... and chafing?

Dekul - 10 months ago
@Huginn:

Posted By Huginn at 1:17 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Will there be a defensive bonus to having metal briefs, or is it just for show... and chafing?

remember to stay well shaven...

Count_Emiya - 10 months ago
@Dekul:

Posted By Dekul at 1:25 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Posted By Huginn at 1:17 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Will there be a defensive bonus to having metal briefs, or is it just for show... and chafing?

remember to stay well shaven...

Screams internally

Extreminador - 10 months ago

Hello all

Question: Will it be possible to write thing's on the ring like "With love Y" ? Will jewelry inscription be a skill in the game ?

I think this will make some jewelry to be more unique and harder for other's to use and it will be one more skill to learn, one more skill to make people busy and think, one more store to open, etc

Have fun and have a nice day

Costanius - 10 months ago

Can I use the birds as canary in a coal mine later? ;-)

Lizybeth_Eros - 10 months ago
@Costanius:

Posted By Costanius at 1:55 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Can I use the birds as canary in a coal mine later? ;-)

Now that is just cruel. You want your love to die of black lung disease?

Seriously though, if you bred enough of them, it might be feasible. I would hope there are wild birds that could do the same function, as that is one more thing for animal tamers to catch and sell.

B1ackfish - 10 months ago

I like this, SBS should have a monthly release of special in-game items you can purchase. Great way to help fund development!

Taradyn - 10 months ago

Question: If we already have a villa or manor, can we also have a Cozy Cottage?

Edit: Could swear I saw a dev post saying we can have either a villa or a manor but not both. Can someone clarify?

Count_Emiya - 10 months ago
@Taradyn:

Posted By Taradyn at 12:08 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Question: If we already have a villa or manor, can we also have a Cozy Cottage?

Edit: Could swear I saw a dev post saying we can have either a villa or a manor but not both. Can someone clarify?

The house is based on your level of authority and comes with the position, if you lose the title granting you the building then you lose the building as well. Also you only get the one as far as I've heard or seen.

Dekul - 10 months ago
@Count_Emiya:

Posted By Count_Emiya at 05:37 AM - Thu Feb 08 2018

Posted By Taradyn at 12:08 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Question: If we already have a villa or manor, can we also have a Cozy Cottage?

Edit: Could swear I saw a dev post saying we can have either a villa or a manor but not both. Can someone clarify?

The house is based on your level of authority and comes with the position, if you lose the title granting you the building then you lose the building as well. Also you only get the one as far as I've heard or seen.

The house that comes with a noble title is based on the position, the cottage isn't based on anything but having a house, just as if you buy one with EP.

Juris Primus - 10 months ago
@Taradyn:

Posted By Taradyn at 1:08 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Question: If we already have a villa or manor, can we also have a Cozy Cottage?

Edit: Could swear I saw a dev post saying we can have either a villa or a manor but not both. Can someone clarify?

I asked Serpentius about this last night. He said you could have the cottage along with either a villa or manor.

As to if you can use a different soul/server/Kingdom when you claim it, someone from SBS is supposed to get back (I think in this thread) for a better answer.

Rhonynn Farstrider - 10 months ago

Hey SBS. Will this promotion be repeated annually until the release of the game? Because I have a significant other that I'd love to purchase these items for, but am not yet certain whether she'll take an interest in playing with me. I'd be very happy if these aren't just a one-time thing. =)

Hieronymus - 10 months ago
@Rhonynn Farstrider:

Posted By Rhonynn Farstrider at 11:20 AM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Hey SBS. Will this promotion be repeated annually until the release of the game? Because I have a significant other that I'd love to purchase these items for, but am not yet certain whether she'll take an interest in playing with me. I'd be very happy if these aren't just a one-time thing. =)

Well now that these items exist, they should be things that can be created or obtained in the game as well (with sufficient effort), just to hold to the standard SBS has clung to thus far regarding all content, which is good policy IMO. So buy it now or work for it later in-game.

Otherwise, we begin to veer toward P2W type quarrels again where people feel like some have "unfair advantages" over others by virtue of their wallets.

CaptainSeli - 10 months ago
@Rhonynn Farstrider:

Posted By Rhonynn Farstrider at 12:20 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Hey SBS. Will this promotion be repeated annually until the release of the game? Because I have a significant other that I'd love to purchase these items for, but am not yet certain whether she'll take an interest in playing with me. I'd be very happy if these aren't just a one-time thing. =)

This time next year, we'll be preparing hard for Exposition! So maybe stuff like this will return in the EP Store.

Dekul - 10 months ago
@Rhonynn Farstrider:

Posted By Rhonynn Farstrider at 11:20 AM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Hey SBS. Will this promotion be repeated annually until the release of the game? Because I have a significant other that I'd love to purchase these items for, but am not yet certain whether she'll take an interest in playing with me. I'd be very happy if these aren't just a one-time thing. =)

Honestly they should wind up in the EP store once that is available, rather than buying them directly for cash.

Ser Long - 10 months ago

I'm almost tempted to buy the deviant set. But answer me THIS? Could the cat o nine be used for self flaggelation, such as in a religious sense? That would be good for bringing a sense of oneness with the gods and atoning for our sins.

Caspian - 10 months ago
@Ser Long:

You be you, friend. Don't let anyone tell you how to be. :-/

Reven4nT - 10 months ago

I hear there are masses from Goldshire enroute.

Zunjin - 10 months ago

@Shinyih Yes. But there has to be a line!

For me there is a big difference between a knight, ridding through a "Valentine Heart-Balloon" decorated city, on top of his "Flying Rednose Dryas Elk", wearing his "Chain Mail Bikini" and his "Christmas Cookie Shield" ... and some player playing a poor farmer, eating a basket full of cakes.

In the end CoE is still a game and not a "Medieval Life Simulator", so some small things are way easier to stomach by those that don't like them, unlike a big theme of "look how funny everything is". :)

Abigor - 10 months ago
@Zunjin:

Posted By Zunjin at 2:04 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

@Shinyih Yes. But there has to be a line!

For me there is a big difference between a knight, ridding through a "Valentine Heart-Balloon" decorated city, on top of his "Flying Rednose Dryas Elk", wearing his "Chain Mail Bikini" and his "Christmas Cookie Shield" ... and some player playing a poor farmer, eating a basket full of cakes.

In the end CoE is still a game and not a "Medieval Life Simulator", so some small things are way easier to stomach by those that don't like them, unlike a big theme of "look how funny everything is". :)

Agreed, it's not a medieval simulator

In my opinion it all depends on - "Could a played achieve this using complex crafting system or available customization to him ingame?".

Could a player run around with pink heart-shaped sword? If a blacksmith can make a heart-shaped hilt and dip the sword in pink paint - sure why not. Will it be effective? probably not, but it's still possible. We should not limit potential customization because people could make something that is not immersive, and people will take any chance to play around customization and make something absurd whether you care about immersion or not x)

Same with bikini - could an armorer make it using customization available? probably yes, but people should still expect that it is a piece of equipment and not a cosmetic that will magically protect you from a blow to the chest.

Shinyih - 10 months ago
@Abigor:

@Abigor

Honestly, I have more issues with the picnic bag than the bikini armor. You land on that restrictions of apperance isn't a solution in itself and sure. It's not the whole world. The problem here is that these items has no cultural background - no context, they are just there because someone spent money on them.

In the end, the picnic bag is just like another cash shop costume - just not in an apparelic way. You buy a piece of artistic value in hope to help funding the game. However, what a picnic bag really does is to bypass the in-game story where something outside the world itself has affected the ingame world. In a way it works similarly to how the participants in the Hunger Games could get items from their watchers. The pledge packages are different because they add actual meaning to your character in the in-game world - whereas the picnic set is just a nice gimmick as I see it for now. You pledge to become a mayor. You pledge to be a part in the history making in this game. You pledge for a chance to name a Star. All these things are meaningful and will not be obtainable once the game launches. A picnic set is not.

Essentially what you are buying is fluff. It does in this case only to a rather small extent break some immersion. The problem lies more in that these items such as picnic bags seemingly are given no context - they'll just appear randomly without regards of any situation. Having too much of things like this will devalue in-game achievements.

I know I'm taking it a bit to the extreme here but you see where I am going? The issue itself really isn't about the items themselves. Rather, the problem here is that they don't make sense at least how I read them. Things that don't make sense not only devalues immersion which as can be seen here doesn't matter toooooo much for everybody - but things that don't make sense also decreases the overall feeling of achievements in game. Especially in a game such as CoE which seemingly appears to build a lot of cultural identity - bringing unrelated things without much thought can be very hurtful.

Let's take a step towards another culture. In this picnic bag there is chocolate but lets say you get some Chinese spicy noodles together with some Japanese bento boxes. These are items that more clearly won't fit in with a Neran household. At the same time, would you expect the Waerd to have desserts, chocolate and wine? Perhaps, perhaps not. But I hope it gets you thinking. Buying the picnic bag is to purchase to disregard your in-game background, much the same way how apparel in some games could be purchased to disregard one's background. In this way, it could become an in-game societal phenomenon and therefore bring it to a larger spectrum which consequences actually could be impactful.

So.. yeah. There is that...

I guess the reason I'm more okay with the bikini is because friggin all cultures are kinky whether they admit it or not. It's an universal thing hehehe....

Shinyih - 10 months ago
@Zunjin:

Posted By Zunjin at 1:04 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

@Shinyih Yes. But there has to be a line!

For me there is a big difference between a knight, ridding through a "Valentine Heart-Balloon" decorated city, on top of his "Flying Rednose Dryas Elk", wearing his "Chain Mail Bikini" and his "Christmas Cookie Shield" ... and some player playing a poor farmer, eating a basket full of cakes.

In the end CoE is still a game and not a "Medieval Life Simulator", so some small things are way easier to stomach by those that don't like them, unlike a big theme of "look how funny everything is". :)

Very fair comparison. That's also why when I say 'borderline' close I really mean 'borderline' as in having not crossed the line, but nearing it.

And while a poor farmer can eat a basket full of cakes, likewise with the Christmas Cookie Shield, the motive of the cookie has to be thought of. For example, if the cookies were heart shaped that does not necessarily mean it is wrong, but many people will make the connection between the heart shaped cookie and Valentine's Day.

However, if there was a back story for that in game sure. Why not!

Tonchek - 10 months ago

Damn SBS just when i am out of cash....

Zunjin - 10 months ago

I am going to buy me some lovebirds. And I hope we see a few more of these sells, to increase the revenue for the game!

While I love 99% of the stuff this event brings us, I also hope that the "Chainmail Bikini" stays one of those very limited "funny-things", because - I personally - would love to see that Elyria has a more serious tone to it and would hate for it to become one of those places:

Skyforge

Archeage

DC Universe Online

EverQuest 2

Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

Hieronymus - 10 months ago
@Zunjin:

Posted By Zunjin at 05:05 AM - Wed Feb 07 2018

I personally - would love to see that Elyria has a more serious tone to it

Me too.

Shinyih - 10 months ago
@Zunjin:

Posted By Zunjin at 12:05 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

I am going to buy me some lovebirds. And I hope we see a few of those sells, to increase the revenue for the game!

While I love 99% of the stuff this event brings us, I also hope that the "Chainmail Bikini" stays one of those very limited "funny-things", because - I personally - would love to see that Elyria has a more serious tune to it and would hate for it to become one of those places:

Skyforge

Archeage

DC Universe Online

EverQuest 2

Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

This is exactly what I'm warning against but people don't seem to undertand that :)....

But also, the picnic bag is a cash shop consumable (seemingly) that lets people buy an experience that could directly contradict the immersion of a player's character.

Imagine player George who is a poor farmer who can barely sustain himself. But he has a bag full of desserts, wine and other fine products.

Immersion just went -10. What I'm saying, sure, if you want elements of love, fine. But incorporate them carefully! Make it sensible to the in-game world. Be sure that it "makes sense" in the context of the world.

A possible solution for this could be to restrict some items so that only Gentry+, Aristocrats+ etc can buy some of the items so that it makes sense. But there may be better ideas. I haven't put much though to this as for now.

Sharielane - 10 months ago

By the time you'll receive and are able to utilise said items Valentine's day will be long gone. These items are not tied to an event in-game, it's just the theme of sale that is.

Besides, we won't even have store item sales remotely like this once the game is Launched anyway. The most we'll get will be discounts of soul and spark packs.

Shinyih - 10 months ago

I, for one, dislike that SBS are trying to bring real life events in the game. This event really foreshadows what could be happening in the game world with silly christmas hats, chinese new year armors and other cosmetics.

  • These things don't fit in a world such as CoE. The things above are borderline close to what I think should be acceptable. Especially the picnic bag which I feel lowers immersion by incorporating RL World traditions etc.

If they are going to take it further I am afraid the refunds will start coming.

Sareseras - 10 months ago
@Shinyih:

Posted By Shinyih at 10:42 AM - Wed Feb 07 2018

I, for one, dislike that SBS are trying to bring real life events in the game. This event really foreshadows what could be happening in the game world with silly christmas hats, chinese new year armors and other cosmetics.

  • These things don't fit in a world such as CoE. The things above are borderline close to what I think should be acceptable. Especially the picnic bag which I feel lowers immersion by incorporating RL World traditions etc.

If they are going to take it further I am afraid the refunds will start coming.

Don't be scared or paranoid, people kept complaining about the likeness of Hrothi to the short legged races of other stories. And now it's about holidays instead of tribes n races, which has been going for a while now with the eye of the queen comet seemingly happening during autumn for halloween or thanksgiving.

But even if there are similarities they try to not make it the same, so just stop with the bad critic if you don't have productive criticism, like instead of saying that it's like xmas, chinese new year, just state what you would have done instead to bring holidays and new content into Elyria while keeping it different from RL.

PS: Valentine's Day or any RL holidays have not been mentioned or associated with any of Elyrias holidays.

Shinyih - 10 months ago
@Sareseras:

Posted By Sareseras at 11:03 AM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Posted By Shinyih at 10:42 AM - Wed Feb 07 2018

I, for one, dislike that SBS are trying to bring real life events in the game. This event really foreshadows what could be happening in the game world with silly christmas hats, chinese new year armors and other cosmetics.

  • These things don't fit in a world such as CoE. The things above are borderline close to what I think should be acceptable. Especially the picnic bag which I feel lowers immersion by incorporating RL World traditions etc.

If they are going to take it further I am afraid the refunds will start coming.

Don't be scared or paranoid, people kept complaining about the likeness of Hrothi to the short legged races of other stories. And now it's about holidays instead of tribes n races, which has been going for a while now with the eye of the queen comet seemingly happening during autumn for halloween or thanksgiving.

But even if there are similarities they try to not make it the same, so just stop with the bad critic if you don't have productive criticism, like instead of saying that it's like xmas, chinese new year, just state what you would have done instead to bring holidays and new content into Elyria while keeping it different from RL.

PS: Valentine's Day or any RL holidays have not been mentioned or associated with any of Elyrias holidays.

I'm not overly pessimistic, just voicing my opinion. SBS seems to be doing a lot of things well but that does not mean I'm going to fully agree with all of their design choices. It's up to them what they want to do, but people can't stop me from expressing an opinion.

If it was not made clearly: I would urge cautiousness when trying to incorporate real life elements into a "fantasy world" (I know the magic elements aren't going to be high in CoE, but think the fantasy term be more like "fabricated, artificial, self-made etc".

For instance, one could argue that the very popular TV Series Game of Thrones became wildly popular because it did not incorporate clear references to our real world society. It did have some similarities, yes, but if they did they would put it into a context that made sense in their "fantasy world".

If SBS could manage to do something like that in CoE that would be great! It would add depth in the game world and even if they added cosmetics in a cash shop it wouldn't risk being classified as a single cash grab that many MMORPGs often fall under. Additionally, the temptation to create stupid outfits that does not make sense drastically decreases since that job would already have been worked with.

My opinion is barely any criticism. People really need to learn how to take a fair discussion. I'm urging for catiousness, I'm not to say "This is bad. Period." and offer no explanations for my ideas. If you don't think my post was constructive, I hope you do now.

Ravenlute - 10 months ago

Does it require a certain skill level to learn these recipes and patterns?

Nakhum - 10 months ago

Can we have some Bikini-Gambeson for that Chainmailbikini? I mean, for combat viability, and all that...

Jokapleb - 10 months ago

It seems you need money and a girlfriend for this. So...

Logain - 10 months ago

A very nice idea, just a little expansive (starting at $10 instead of $3-$5).

LeBron - 10 months ago

Wow....that's really something I need. Haha WTH? :D

FlariaIcaria - 10 months ago

Ooohh, yes! All of them sounds good to me.

Fenrer - 10 months ago

Bikini will surely add to my gorgeous boney ghoul look, better get that for walking around in the darkness.

Pleh, gona have to get the ring too I suppose.. man expecting some romantic gesture or proper proposal soon anyways.

Nightfinger - 10 months ago

I’m sure them Brudvir ladies won’t mind getting their chest hair constantly caught in the links...nah

Serpentius - 10 months ago

I will get back to the few questions in one fell swoop, very soon.

Thanks for that and the feedback, and keep em coming!

KipFoE - 9 months ago
@Serpentius:

Posted By Serpentius at 12:53 AM - Wed Feb 07 2018

I will get back to the few questions in one fell swoop, very soon.

Thanks for that and the feedback, and keep em coming!

/poke

KipFoE - 9 months ago
@KipFoE:

Posted By KipFoE at 08:57 AM - Tue Feb 13 2018

Posted By Serpentius at 12:53 AM - Wed Feb 07 2018

I will get back to the few questions in one fell swoop, very soon.

Thanks for that and the feedback, and keep em coming!

/poke

Weekly poke/reminder/don’t-forget-post

Dareus - 10 months ago

Does placing a cottage within a settlement include ownership of a plot/town share?

Reikan - 10 months ago

Will coe tailor to some 'niche' communities?
There will be these garments but no vanilla?

Lizybeth_Eros - 10 months ago

Remember to shave before putting on those chainmail briefs!

The briefs are for guys or gals. I guess it's for people that need extra protection under the rest of their armor? :P

Hieronymus - 10 months ago
@Lizybeth_Eros:

Posted By Torawin Jonham at 10:26 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

Remember to shave before putting on those chainmail briefs!

Thank you so much for that visual ...

Lizybeth_Eros - 10 months ago
@Hieronymus:

Posted By Hieronymus at 10:19 AM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Posted By Torawin Jonham at 10:26 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

Remember to shave before putting on those chainmail briefs!

Thank you so much for that visual ...

Glad I was able to "enhance" your reading!

Desophyr - 10 months ago
@Lizybeth_Eros:

Posted By Torawin Jonham at 10:26 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

Remember to shave before putting on those chainmail briefs!

The briefs are for guys or gals. I guess it's for people that need extra protection under the rest of their armor? :P

That is a very innocent way of looking at it. I hope you don't suppose that whip is meant for combat purposes do you?

Lizybeth_Eros - 10 months ago
@Desophyr:

Posted By Desophyr at 01:12 AM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Posted By Torawin Jonham at 10:26 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

Remember to shave before putting on those chainmail briefs!

The briefs are for guys or gals. I guess it's for people that need extra protection under the rest of their armor? :P

That is a very innocent way of looking at it. I hope you don't suppose that whip is meant for combat purposes do you?

I thought the whip was for taming wild cats...

Juris Primus - 10 months ago

So if I buy the Cottage for Two with my FK Count, is the cottage absorbed into my town, or can I place it in another county, KIngdom, or even server (with an alt soul of course?)

Count_Anatar - 10 months ago

Someone buy a ton of the song birds and release them all into the wild and watch as they form flocks!

Protey - 10 months ago

Question for SbS: What are the mechanics behind all of these items, if any?

For instance, you included food and recipes... you have mentioned before that food has effects on our stats. Which stats and how much will the above provide? Will the ring or necklace confer any mechanic?

Torsep - 10 months ago

I wonder why the basket isn't included in that picnic bundle

Serverus - 10 months ago

Our very own Amulet of Kings. Amusing. We definitely have to craft some for our Blackheart Fellowship.

Desophyr - 10 months ago

That bikini better not be gender-exclusive. My awkwardly swole midget Kypiq better be able to show off his bulging muscles in that.

Orisoll - 10 months ago
@Desophyr:

Posted By Desophyr at 9:46 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

That bikini better not be gender-exclusive. My awkwardly swole midget Kypiq better be able to show off his bulging muscles in that.

You're in luck. They come in briefs!

malhavoc - 10 months ago

Just ate dinner, read this and hurled. Thanks a lot SBS.

Count_Emiya - 10 months ago
@malhavoc:

Posted By malhavoc at 8:44 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

Just ate dinner, read this and hurled. Thanks a lot SBS.

A hypersensitive evil wizard, odd.

Solarity - 10 months ago

Do the songbirds need food? I don't want to have them and let them die in my house when I go out for adventure.

Edit: Just found bird description.

"Keep or gift this pair of song birds which you will receive as a pet, and a cage to keep them in. This pet is different from the other currently available pets, as they have the potential to fly away and cannot be trained. This is a mated pair of songbirds, keep them fed and ultimately you will end up with a third!"

My question is can SBS tell us how often we are likely need to feed them? just estimation is fine or we only need to feed them only if we want the third?

Poldano - 10 months ago

Do the songbirds lay eggs, or make contracts?

Orisoll - 10 months ago

Chronicles of Erotica.

Lira - 10 months ago

Elyria and Chill? Oh bby, you just opened the floodgates.

KipFoE - 10 months ago

Most of these seem to be cosmetic in nature; which is fun and a good idea for revenue building. A couple of them are not fully cosmetic. My question: Are we still SURE there will be ZERO non-cosmetic items purchasable post exposition?

Dekul - 10 months ago
@KipFoE:

Posted By KipFoE at 7:57 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

Most of these seem to be cosmetic in nature; which is fun and a good idea for revenue building. A couple of them are not fully cosmetic. My question: Are we still SURE there will be ZERO non-cosmetic items purchasable post exposition?

You mean aside from souls and sparks right? Question would you be upset if something like the basic adventurer's pack was still available? With just a bit of food and water and a basic map of their start location? I mean, I understand they promised nothing non-cosmetic but what are we talking really? Only thing I see that might confer a benefit are some dessert recipes, which might only make some basic and non-beneficial food, that is yet to be seen.

KipFoE - 10 months ago
@Dekul:

Posted By Dekul at 1:10 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Posted By KipFoE at 7:57 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

Most of these seem to be cosmetic in nature; which is fun and a good idea for revenue building. A couple of them are not fully cosmetic. My question: Are we still SURE there will be ZERO non-cosmetic items purchasable post exposition?

You mean aside from souls and sparks right? Question would you be upset if something like the basic adventurer's pack was still available? With just a bit of food and water and a basic map of their start location? I mean, I understand they promised nothing non-cosmetic but what are we talking really? Only thing I see that might confer a benefit are some dessert recipes, which might only make some basic and non-beneficial food, that is yet to be seen.

Sparks not included as that is their form of a subscription; which I’m good with. As for other items, I’m totally against anything non cosmetic. A building, such as a cottage would be a huge no go for me. The recipes as well. If it is sold for real life money and gives any advantage in time savings or whatever, that’s... well, I won’t get on that soap box; just answering your question.

If they want to give all new accounts a starter pack of rations and a simple map, that’s okay because everyone gets it.

I’m totally open to them generating revenue through some cosmetics.

Dekul - 10 months ago
@KipFoE:

Posted By KipFoE at 2:07 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Posted By Dekul at 1:10 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Posted By KipFoE at 7:57 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

Most of these seem to be cosmetic in nature; which is fun and a good idea for revenue building. A couple of them are not fully cosmetic. My question: Are we still SURE there will be ZERO non-cosmetic items purchasable post exposition?

You mean aside from souls and sparks right? Question would you be upset if something like the basic adventurer's pack was still available? With just a bit of food and water and a basic map of their start location? I mean, I understand they promised nothing non-cosmetic but what are we talking really? Only thing I see that might confer a benefit are some dessert recipes, which might only make some basic and non-beneficial food, that is yet to be seen.

Sparks not included as that is their form of a subscription; which I’m good with. As for other items, I’m totally against anything non cosmetic. A building, such as a cottage would be a huge no go for me. The recipes as well. If it is sold for real life money and gives any advantage in time savings or whatever, that’s... well, I won’t get on that soap box; just answering your question.

If they want to give all new accounts a starter pack of rations and a simple map, that’s okay because everyone gets it.

I’m totally open to them generating revenue through some cosmetics.

In a game so heavily reliant on politics, even cosmetic items could have real in-game impact on the opinions of players and npcs toward your character... besides, would cosmetic items give you actual clothing? or armor? That should have been made by a player using real-ingame resources. Are they just skins you apply? That breaks immersion items shouldn't be changing appearance randomly after creation because you paid some money. Are they recipes? Well you should have had to spend time in-game researching and learning those recipes... etc etc... even selling cosmetics only has a lot of nuance.

Zunjin - 10 months ago
@Dekul:

Posted By Dekul at 9:47 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

In a game so heavily reliant on politics, even cosmetic items could have real in-game impact on the opinions of players and npcs toward your character... besides, would cosmetic items give you actual clothing? or armor? That should have been made by a player using real-ingame resources. Are they just skins you apply? That breaks immersion items shouldn't be changing appearance randomly after creation because you paid some money. Are they recipes? Well you should have had to spend time in-game researching and learning those recipes... etc etc... even selling cosmetics only has a lot of nuance.

Maybe you missed it somewhere on your way here, but since Kickstarter it was advertised on the Kickstarter page, that - until the end of Exposition - players could buy land, houses, livestock, clothing, backpacks, wagons, siege weapons etc.

All stuff that could and can be earned, build, crafted, mined, collected, found and so on.

They also told us, that our EP - which always could be payed with cash - can be used to purchase way more, than what was shown on the Kickstarter page, like starter sets for every profession and special recipes, that will be offered for a limited time.

Also Mayors, Counts, Dukes and Kings are able to buy special packs, like for defense structures, as well as culture, education and religious buildings, to add to their realms.

All this was planed or hinted since the beginning. So you should have either informed yourself better, or just never backed the game, if you don't like this.


Posted By KipFoE at 06:11 AM - Thu Feb 08 2018

Good points. I too would prefer a good ole subscription game where playing the game is the only way to get anything. As for what is cosmetic: if it affects an npc opinion, then that is a form of stat. Certainly clothes that protect you from the elements are not cosmetic. A skin would be cosmetic, but you’re right; even that would devalue a crafters work. Recipes are not cosmetic.

I would have preferred such a classic "buy + subscription" MMO too. The problem is, that those were / are only done by classic Publishers, those with the big pockets BUT those even shifted to P2P + Cosmetic Shop, or B2P / F2P with Item Shop, or even Lootboxes and other crap.

Also most of these MMOs aren't targeting the niche market, most of this community here is part of.

That is why it needs Indie Companies like Soulbound, City State Entertainment, Art+Craft, or Visionary Realms to have the guts to TRY it. But those don't have the deep packets for a classical "buy + subscription" MMO, because the small amount of people able and willing to kickstart or to seed such an endeavor, don't bring in enough money from the beginning. So you need to look for ways to make engaged players and fans to invest more.

All of those named companies above do it. They give you pets, mounts, land, houses and other stuff with the pledge backs, or through a store. Even Camelot Unchained, which is the game that is using this method the least (due to its owner being a multi-millionaire that has put quite some money into the game) sells special items with the packs, that - unlike CoE - you can't get otherwise in game, incl. armor textures.

Dekul - 10 months ago
@Zunjin:

Posted By Zunjin at 02:06 AM - Thu Feb 08 2018

Posted By Dekul at 9:47 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

In a game so heavily reliant on politics, even cosmetic items could have real in-game impact on the opinions of players and npcs toward your character... besides, would cosmetic items give you actual clothing? or armor? That should have been made by a player using real-ingame resources. Are they just skins you apply? That breaks immersion items shouldn't be changing appearance randomly after creation because you paid some money. Are they recipes? Well you should have had to spend time in-game researching and learning those recipes... etc etc... even selling cosmetics only has a lot of nuance.

Maybe you missed it somewhere on your way here, but since Kickstarter it was advertised on the Kickstarter page, that - until the end of Exposition - players could buy land, houses, livestock, clothing, backpacks, wagons, siege weapons etc.

All stuff that could and can be earned, build, crafted, mined, collected, found and so on.

They also told us, that our EP - which always could be payed with cash - can be used to purchase way more, than what was shown on the Kickstarter page, like starter sets for every profession and special recipes, that will be offered for a limited time.

Also Mayors, Counts, Dukes and Kings are able to buy special packs, like for defense structures, as well as culture, education and religious buildings, to add to their realms.

All this was planed or hinted since the beginning. So you should have either informed yourself better, or just never backed the game, if you don't like this.

Didn't miss it, the post I was responding to was referring to after exposition and that was the timeline I had in mind when I posed my question in return. Personally I'm on the fence, I want them to be able to afford to make the game and I don't really care if minor stuff is available to buy. As long as all the most desireable and high-end items come from players, having a few base quality items that people can get just to survive is fine.

Gunnlang - 9 months ago
@Dekul:

Posted By Dekul at 01:19 AM - Fri Feb 09 2018

Personally I'm on the fence, I want them to be able to afford to make the game and I don't really care if minor stuff is available to buy. As long as all the most desireable and high-end items come from players, having a few base quality items that people can get just to survive is fine.

Seeing how expensive high quality items will cost or at least when Caspian put out that post months back saying they would cost x20/x50/x100 more. If that stays the same way. Even people that have dumped thousands into EP won't really be able to get many. Probably turn out to be as rare as relics really, at least the best ones.

Dekul - 9 months ago
@Gunnlang:

Posted By Gunnlang at 10:45 AM - Fri Feb 09 2018

Posted By Dekul at 01:19 AM - Fri Feb 09 2018

Personally I'm on the fence, I want them to be able to afford to make the game and I don't really care if minor stuff is available to buy. As long as all the most desireable and high-end items come from players, having a few base quality items that people can get just to survive is fine.

Seeing how expensive high quality items will cost or at least when Caspian put out that post months back saying they would cost x20/x50/x100 more. If that stays the same way. Even people that have dumped thousands into EP won't really be able to get many. Probably turn out to be as rare as relics really, at least the best ones.

Right that is pre or during Expo though, you won't be buying legendary items after release. That's all I'm talking about is after release.

KipFoE - 10 months ago
@Dekul:

Posted By Dekul at 3:47 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Posted By KipFoE at 2:07 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Posted By Dekul at 1:10 PM - Wed Feb 07 2018

Posted By KipFoE at 7:57 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

Most of these seem to be cosmetic in nature; which is fun and a good idea for revenue building. A couple of them are not fully cosmetic. My question: Are we still SURE there will be ZERO non-cosmetic items purchasable post exposition?

You mean aside from souls and sparks right? Question would you be upset if something like the basic adventurer's pack was still available? With just a bit of food and water and a basic map of their start location? I mean, I understand they promised nothing non-cosmetic but what are we talking really? Only thing I see that might confer a benefit are some dessert recipes, which might only make some basic and non-beneficial food, that is yet to be seen.

Sparks not included as that is their form of a subscription; which I’m good with. As for other items, I’m totally against anything non cosmetic. A building, such as a cottage would be a huge no go for me. The recipes as well. If it is sold for real life money and gives any advantage in time savings or whatever, that’s... well, I won’t get on that soap box; just answering your question.

If they want to give all new accounts a starter pack of rations and a simple map, that’s okay because everyone gets it.

I’m totally open to them generating revenue through some cosmetics.

In a game so heavily reliant on politics, even cosmetic items could have real in-game impact on the opinions of players and npcs toward your character... besides, would cosmetic items give you actual clothing? or armor? That should have been made by a player using real-ingame resources. Are they just skins you apply? That breaks immersion items shouldn't be changing appearance randomly after creation because you paid some money. Are they recipes? Well you should have had to spend time in-game researching and learning those recipes... etc etc... even selling cosmetics only has a lot of nuance.

Good points. I too would prefer a good ole subscription game where playing the game is the only way to get anything. As for what is cosmetic: if it affects an npc opinion, then that is a form of stat. Certainly clothes that protect you from the elements are not cosmetic. A skin would be cosmetic, but you’re right; even that would devalue a crafters work. Recipes are not cosmetic.

HuldricFranconian - 10 months ago

Already purchased. 😉

Tenna - 10 months ago

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but chains and whips excite me" Rihanna - S&M

mickdude2 - 10 months ago

Deviant package

SbS is about to make bank.

Ser Long - 10 months ago

Wait, so what is the actual purpose of the BDSM gear? We seriously doing ERP now??? Hey, whatever floats your boat I guess.

Arthos - 10 months ago

drools they look amazing!

Stealthwire - 10 months ago

This is cute! I'm gonna have to get some songbirds

Deftly - 10 months ago

April fools?

Kayadine - 10 months ago

I demand a chastity belt and key that are bestowed upon soulmates!

(Name this reference and you get a gold star)

Prof_Griz - 10 months ago
@Kayadine:

Posted By Kayadine at 7:12 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

I demand a chastity belt and key that are bestowed upon soulmates!

(Name this reference and you get a gold star)

Robin Hood: Men in Tights

Blankwindow - 10 months ago
@Kayadine:

Posted By Kayadine at 7:12 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

I demand a chastity belt and key that are bestowed upon soulmates!

(Name this reference and you get a gold star)

Princess Bride or Robin Hood: Men in Tights are what come to mind

Lethality - 10 months ago

ow, my wallet.

/shakes fist at Soulbound!

This might be a dumb question - but the birds, basket, necklace, ring, etc... physicalized objects in the game world?

Caspian - 10 months ago
@Lethality:

Posted By Lethality at 4:51 PM - Tue Feb 06 2018

ow, my wallet.

/shakes fist at Soulbound!

This might be a dumb question - but the birds, basket, necklace, ring, etc... physicalized objects in the game world?

Yep. All physical.

Barleyman - 10 months ago

SBS officially sold out... chain-mail bikinis, tsk tsk tsk, for shame.

ScarletteTaygen - 10 months ago

Fantastic!!! Time to go shopping! lol

Xeyska - 10 months ago

Immediately buys the deviant package for her Monarch.

Matriarch - 10 months ago

Oh dear getting BDSM images now.

kkillroyv2 - 10 months ago

This should make negotiating marriage contracts a little less cold.

Maulvorn - 10 months ago

defo gonna wear that chain mail bikini.

Kiliga - 10 months ago

kinky