Very interesting question.

Thanks for bringing it up here in the forums rather than just in Discord.

I can see there are a lot of theories behind the various viewpoints.

I do hope we get a definitive statement from the Devs on it.

Especially prior to settlement placement.

My own opinions are as follows:

1) I do believe the "racial" restrictions are there for a reason. It's my thinking it has to do with keeping the unique and individual nature of each tribe through launch. As someone already mentioned above, there can be ways that King Wenceslas can lead the Tribe of Mud People even though he is actually descended from space aliens, but I don't think that is what they want coming out of the blocks. It would dilute each tribes particular lore and their individual diversities before they had a chance to develop. It will eventually happen over the course of the ten years. And I think they do want us to do it. I just don't think that is where they want the game to start.

2) I do think the definitions of majority and minority do need to be addressed. Especially in the transitional biome areas. What constitutes the majority? And how is that calculated. Is it the greatest population in the Kingdom? The Duchy within the Kingdom? Each individual county? And if those differ from county to county, as I'm sure they will, which takes precedence? Restating it using your example above, I would say that the King of Kingdom One should probably be either Brudvir or Hrothi. And of Kingdom Two either Hrothi or Neran. He certainly shouldn't be Janoan. But does that mean if you are King of both, that you have to be Hrothi, because it is more dominant in both? Or is it based on the majority of the population in the physical location of the capital? If the capital is located in the Neran section of Kingdom Two, can you then be a Neran as that is the local majority vs. the total Kingdom majority? That is what needs to be clarified in regards to the term majority in my opinion.

3) My last point is one that I know that all the Kings I have come in contact with have been most attentive to following. That the good of the overall game is more important than any individual. No matter their position, or the amount of coin they have spent, or when they spent it, the Nobles first role at this time is to lead and develop the rest of the game for the future players. It is a role of great responsibility and some self-sacrifice. And not cut out for everybody. So far we have seen quality leadership in these positions as we all work collaboratively in putting the foundation together of what will hopefully be a long and very wonderful world. This focus on the big picture needs to stay true as we go forward.

Well...That was a lot more words than I thought it would be...LOL

Transition biomes are still located in specifically named biomes on the map, each of which has a particular tribe shown as dominate.

Until stated here or otherwise, it would be best for royalty to plan as such. In the first example given by the OP that would mean that, regardless of where in the biome the settlement is located, regardless of terrain, they would indeed have to be Hrothi, because it is located in the Rocky Mountain Steppe which are dominate Hrothi.

Posted By Ravenlute at 3:10 PM - Mon Nov 12 2018

Transition biomes are still located in specifically named biomes on the map, each of which has a particular tribe shown as dominate.

Until stated here or otherwise, it would be best for royalty to plan as such. In the first example given by the OP that would mean that, regardless of where in the biome the settlement is located, regardless of terrain, they would indeed have to be Hrothi, because it is located in the Rocky Mountain Steppe which are dominate Hrothi.

While I agree that appears to be the current stance, I think the point is to get them to potentially re-consider that. That is ridiculously restricting once you get to Duke+.

Thank you so much for the clarification Snipe!

So does a Duke with multiple duchies that are in different biomes get to pick which one is representative of his/her duchy?

Wait for clarification:

1) When a monarch picks the kingdom, they also pick the biome that represents the Kingdom Seat. The monarch is then bound to the tribe that calls that biome home, irrespective of the demographics for their specifically selected duchy, county, or settlement. (Biome in this case means the overall biome -- as marked on the currently available maps -- and ignores transitional duchies or microbiomes at the borders between overarching biomes.)

If I select the Lower Mountain Forest as the representative for the Kingdom seat, and then I pick duchies in the Rocky Mountain Steppe Biome would my King character then be a Neran? Or by selecting the representative Kingdom seat does that bind me to picking a duchy in that biome? In the case where I have 3 duchies and I pick 1 duchy in that biome and 2 in the Rocky Mountain Steppe and place my city/counties in the Rocky Mountain Steppe would I still be a Neran King? Or is my seat of power (my settlement) required to be in the biome chosen as the representative Kingdom seat biome?

Case in point if in the map below I choose Lower Montane Forest as the "biome that represents the Kingdom Seat" and then I choose Y7, Y5, Y3 and place my counties and city in Y5, because I am the King and I chose the Lower Montane Forest as the "biome that represents the Kingdom Seat" my character would start as a Neran "irrespective of the demographics for my specifically selected duchies, counties, or settlement.". Just checking if I am reading that right :-)

The same goes for Multi-package holding Dukes. Do they get the choice based upon the majority tribe in the specific duchy where they placed their counties / settlements or is it combining all of the tribes demographics amongst all of their duchies and they have to choose the majority tribe from there?

As an example if someone had 3 duchies in this Kingdom

They could theoretically sellect Y8, Y5, and R2 and have 1 duchy in 3 different biomes. The majority based off of population could be Neran, or could be Brudvir, or could be Hrothi, however if they place their counties and city in Y8 I wouldnt expect to see many Brudvir there, but it could be possible all 3 tribes are tied for population there and they would be able to choose one of the 3 regardless of where they place their county / city. Which tbh is fine as far as I am concerned I am just making sure that we understand the nuance.

Don't like the answer, but I guess thanks all the same Snipe.

Posted By Snipehunter at 2:39 PM - Mon Nov 12 2018

To clarify Adam, when you pick the kingdom seat, you're also saying "and this is where the capital will be located" - So if you picked the Lower Montaine Forest, you would need to put your capital, and its county and duchy, in that biome.

Hope that helps! :)

Yes that pretty much covers that little bit of confusion for the Monarch level. The last piece with the Multi-package holding dukes. Is the population added up across all of the duchies they select and averaged from there to determine what tribe they will have to be or it is specifically the duchy that they place their seat of power in that determines their required tribe?

**Edit: Answered already! - Thanks Snipe!

Posted By Snipehunter at 2:44 PM - Mon Nov 12 2018

Posted By Dakota at 1:21 PM - Mon Nov 12 2018

So does a Duke with multiple duchies that are in different biomes get to pick which one is representative of his/her duchy?

If you have multiple duchies the duchies you select must be adjacent and they are then combined into a single duchy, to which your choice is bound to. So if your new larger duchy crosses biome borders, its resulting demographics would be where your choice restriction comes from.

Hope that helps! :)

Yep that covers it, Thank you again Snipe!

Follow up question if possible:

During KoE can we slaughter the locals and bring in characters from other biomes to play as a specific race in a specific biome or will the population numbers reset to what we saw in Domain Selection map before expo / launch ?

Posted By JohnWhite at 9:59 PM - Mon Nov 12 2018

Follow up question if possible:

During KoE can we slaughter the locals and bring in characters from other biomes to play as a specific race in a specific biome or will the population numbers reset to what we saw in Domain Selection map before expo / launch ?

Slaughter the locals and you may find a full scale rebellion - so your rule will be the inside of a prison cell!

Posted By JohnWhite at 3:59 PM - Mon Nov 12 2018

Follow up question if possible:

During KoE can we slaughter the locals and bring in characters from other biomes to play as a specific race in a specific biome or will the population numbers reset to what we saw in Domain Selection map before expo / launch ?

Been a while since we had a genocidal post.

My personal hope is no. You can migrate in bloodlines changing the micro level but not the demographics at the macro level. Ie small changes but not enough to change the statistics in Snipes post.